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This should be fun to watch over the next few months!!

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  • CON40CON40 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the link James. I think the Sox should buy it off him.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    I think they should threaten to sell him to Japan if he doesn't give it backimage
  • boggs301012boggs301012 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭
    PC that is a good one. From what I know about Doug is he has made Millions and players usualy frown upon fans that keep special balls. This will open the door for all. Now most every fan will want a payday.


    James
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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    As an employee doesn't everything belong to his employer? Other than personal equipment, like bats, gloves, etc.?
    Not like he wasn't making enough already. How come some guy slinging sheetrock can put his kid thru college, but Dougie can't, making in a year what most do in a lifetime.
    Heh.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • Since the game was in St. Louis, maybe the Cardinals own the ball. I think the Cardinals and MLB would have more claim than the Red Sox.
  • Brian48Brian48 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭
    The Red Sox should just offer him something for it. The ball should be in a museum somewhere, but at the same time, Mientkiewicz shouldn't screwed out of it either.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    That's a tough call, but Mientkiewicz should be reasonable here. He played only a small role on this historic run, and by happenstance wound up with the ball. The team should give him some small token, and he should allow the ball to be displayed by the team (not sold by the team though) for years to come.
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  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    I was going to say the home team provides the balls, so I don't see how the Sox have any claim to it. But there is also a traditional usage doctrine that basically says if something is done a certain way for a long time, then it can supercede technicalities of law. If players are allowed to walk off with jerseys, bats, balls, etc. for generations, then a team can't all of a sudden say,"No, that's ours," at least not without compensating the player. If anything, the player would pay for the actual cost of the item in question, but get to retain posession. So Doug writes the Cards a check for $10, and it's his ball. Doug could be nice and allow it to be displayed in a museum, insured out the yingyang, but retain ownership.

    Next thing you know, Steinbrenner will yank half the contents out of Cooperstown as Yankee property.
    WANTED:
    2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
    2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
    Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs

    Nothing on ebay
  • boggs301012boggs301012 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭
    I think he turn the ball over. Just becasue he caught the ball does'nt give him ownership of the ball. It should go to the owner of the club if he makes a request. Doug is an employee of the Boston Redsox. Who in the work place can just claim something and take it home?


    James
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭
    possession 9/10s of the law and clearly he is documented as the possessor.

    I would gladly milk the greedy game for all its worth. Its the american way.


    Loves me some shiny!
  • Keep the ball.

    Screw the Man!
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    image

    Cowboy Up image

    looks like the distractions have begun image

    .......so much for that magical team chemistry image


  • As a college first baseman, I trotted off the field with many final out game balls. Not saying that an NAIA college baseball is the same as a significant World Series ball. It just happens.

    I think we have all taken something from our employers!



  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Without this becoming a major deal in the courts, hasn't a precedent been set whereby players have just as much right to take a ball from the field of play as a fan does catching it?

    The nature of the ball is what is making it special - this I understand - but based on history, the man has the right to keep the ball - unless he opts to give it up to the museum.

    And unless some diehard Boston fans fight over the ball - if up for auction - the last out or how about the first out? I think the abounding significance of that ball eludes me. Now if the series went 7 games and Ortiz hit a round tripper to win the WS - now that would excite me much more - just my take - not worth the price of admission to CU forums.

    your friend
    Mike

    edit: great thread Boggs! Thanx for posting the story.
    Mike
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Protocol in this matter is the player that has it last owns it. When Faulke was running the ball to 1st base I thought at the time that he wanted the ball. Then he threw it to first. Fews years back a stadium worker caught a home run ball of significance and the Team strong armed him into giving it up. They said it was the property of the team. Baseball players though have always been able to keep such historic momentos. I believe Doug M is the rightful owner. i like how some jamoke offered him 500.00 for it. Hey Doug Ill give 600.00!


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    Good for you.
  • MantlefanMantlefan Posts: 1,079 ✭✭
    They've threatened to trade him to the Mets if he doesn't give it back!image

    I think he should keep it [we could use him].
    Frank

    Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    Another curse to get all worked up about!
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭✭
    Here's what I don't get. If the Red Sox are so interested in saving "history" for their "museum", why did they let home plate, pitcher's mound, and the bases get away in Leland's recent auction:

    Bosox WS stuff

    Displaying home plate seems a whole lot cooler to me, not to mention rarer. If home plate is worth $40 grand, what's the ball worth?
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Detroit
    That's a good point! I wonder how they would argue that point...then again...maybe now, they have regrets?

    your friend
    Mike
    Mike
  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    Do as Upper Deck would and chop the sucker up stick the little pieces of the ball in cards or frame them and every red sox player get's a piece along wither the red sox organization. I'm tottaly again't cutting up jersey's, balls, skates, whatever however in this case go ahead.. If they win again within the next 5 years the value of that ball will drop and it won't seem as important anymore anyway.
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Maybe Steinbrenner offers 2 million for it. Then holds it hostage.
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • All the media attention is just making the ball worth even more. There are plenty of crazy and rich BoSox fans out there that I wouldn't be surprised if that ball hits the $500K mark.
    CB4
  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    Yeah Steinbrenner should buy it and sacrafice it to the yankee gods. He's buying everything else to get himself another championship he may as well do that as well.
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