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1st time poster - Thoughts on my 1865 3 cent nickel??

Hey everyone, been lurking for a while collecting info but decided to join seeing as i finally got a decent coin worth showing off.

My grandfather left me a small collection featuring basic coins from late 1800's and early 1900's as well as a large number of foreign coins from early to mid 1900's.

I decided to add to it so i picked this coin up.

I know the 3 cent nickels are not that popular, but i felt it was a pretty attractive coin and in great shape. Only wear on it seems to be the curls on her hair and 1 leaf in the wreath on the reverse. Coin is actually brown to gray in color. Very clean.

It's in a small 2x2 holder and ungraded...so can you pros give me a hand with what this might be?

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Welcome.
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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    image to the forum. I like your 3 cent nickel and your photos. image
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin.
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    Larry

  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Welcome and a nice example. This is a fun forum, even with the occassional side show. Hope you decide to stick around and post!
  • Thanks. But i would like to clarify the photo is of my coin, but was not taken by me. Was just trying to save time using the photo i already had of it instead of snapping my own
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-?image
    The square rim makes me wonder.
    Larry

  • ERER Posts: 7,345


    << <i>Welcome and a nice example. This is a fun forum, even with the occassional side show. Hope you decide to stick around and post! >>


    And I thought this forum IS the side show, with the occasional coin talks.image
    BTW, welcome aboard, Mustang5L5. Coin looks to be XF that 's been cleaned. JMHO.
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    & Nice Coin!!
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the Boards!
    Your coin looks to be a nice AU,however it has been cleaned.Reducing it to more of a VF or so value.
    -Hayden
  • Just curious as to how you guys can tell it's been cleaned? WHat are the signs that you look for?
  • Yes, WELCOME TO THE BOARDS!!!!

    I agree XF and cleaned at some point......I believe the 1865 is the most common date in the series, but it's still a nice coin. image
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd agree with the AU-something. How high, (50, 53, 55, 58) really depends on how much luster remains, and how much of that "wear" is actually weak strike. The 3 cent nickels are notorious for poor strike, particularly in the early years. It was one of the first coins struck from the 25% nickel alloy, and they had one heck of a time working with it.

    I think much of the weakness in your coins obverse, particularly low on the hair, is the result of weak strike instead of wear.

    Nice coin!

    I just picked up another 3-center today. I'm working on a whole set. They ain't popular, so they're relatively cheap compared to other coins of the same age, rarity, and grade.

    Added: I'm not sure one could tell it's been cleaned based on that photo!
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  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭


    << <i>image

    & Nice Coin!! >>


    Katrina,
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  • Hey HTubbs! lol!

    He was crap'n my style
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207
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  • << <i>
    I just picked up another 3-center today. I'm working on a whole set. They ain't popular, so they're relatively cheap compared to other coins of the same age, rarity, and grade.
    >>



    Yes, i discovered that 3-cents are relatively cheap for their age and grade compared to other coins. Not sure i would collect any more of them unless i found another nice example like this for cheap.
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey HTubbs! lol!

    He was crap'n my style >>



    Oh,I see.You all should know youre still only allowed one eBay thread,and one ttt per thread.image
  • Oh I didn't know that, Sorry, fix'n it right now!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Allways good to see a new member join!

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice lookin' coin.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome aboard.
    Tempus fugit.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    welcome !!!!

    three cent nicks are undervalued sleeper coins

    i only like coins with fantastic eye appeal and great value be it poor 1 chain or superb gem mintstate66 early s mint franklins

    michael
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570
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    Nice coin - nice looking coin with light wear. A lot of coins have been cleaned at one point or another.
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  • Welcome!!! It appears you already have a nice start to a "type coin" collection---one of each type minted in the US. These make for a facinating collection, display, and throw in a little history lession too!! Very attractive example.image
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  • << <i>I'd agree with the AU-something. How high, (50, 53, 55, 58) really depends on how much luster remains, and how much of that "wear" is actually weak strike. The 3 cent nickels are notorious for poor strike, particularly in the early years. It was one of the first coins struck from the 25% nickel alloy, and they had one heck of a time working with it.

    I think much of the weakness in your coins obverse, particularly low on the hair, is the result of weak strike instead of wear.

    Nice coin!

    They ain't popular, so they're relatively cheap compared to other coins of the same age, rarity, and grade.

    Added: I'm not sure one could tell it's been cleaned based on that photo! >>



    I agree with all of the above.

    The weak strikes make this series very tough for me to grade. Even in AU there are often almost no lines on the III on the reverse. I look at the hair at the top of Liberty's head and the beads on the coronet mostly for grading. Flatness in the lower curls are often strike weakness. The leaves on the reverse can be kind of mushy too. By the middle dates, the strikes had become a little more consistant, I think. My 1865 is an attractive, gray MS-60. The strike is a little weak, but it has interesting clash marks on the reverse. You can see most of the profile in the field.

    As for cleaning, I assume that almost all 19th cent. coins have been cleaned at some time. I just don't want their cleaning to have been harsh or recent. I'm not often interested in coins that have been hairlined to death or that look like a fishing lure. But I'm not put off by an AU or EF that has been lightly dipped once or twice.
    The strangest things seem suddenly routine.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    it looks like a really nice ef-40 that has not been cleaned. i'd say you have a keeper! congrats!!!

    K S
  • Final question on this coin

    new picture i just took.

    WHat is the wavy area behind the head? Is that die clash??
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    Michael
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Yes, that is a die clash. They are very common on the this, but I think they are interesting.

    Here's a picture of one with strong clashes. It also has a funky (mis-aligned die?).

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  • Good Lord! Is that the same coin?image Yes, what you have is an EF. And itsnotjustme is right. Those are clash marks (and very nice ones at that).
    The strangest things seem suddenly routine.


  • << <i>Good Lord! Is that the same coin?image >>




    I was thinking the same thing myself! The coin 'itsnotjustme' posted looks nearly identical to mine on the obverse!
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    Notice the coins have the exact same weakness in the lowest hair just northeast of the 5 in the date.
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  • The coin looks to be AU-58, very close to MS-60.

    It has alot of detail, and virtually no wear.

    Based on those photos, I don't believe it was cleaned, or altered in any way.
  • Do you guys think it's worty of sending it it to get slabbed?? Right now i have it in a 2x2 holder, but it's always nice to have a few things certified.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    DO NOT waste your hard earned $$$ slabing that coin! it is NOT unc, though in the new digi-pic it looks better than my initial ef-40 guess. i'd say it's a borderline au now.

    yes, that's a die-clash on the right - for which the 1865's are notorious.

    K S
  • Ok thanks for the advice.

    I think i'm gonna start collecting 1865-1889 3-cent nickels. I like the coin, but for some reason they are not popular. It's ok by me as it means i can get decent examples for pretty cheap. I think it's a good looking coin despite the small size plus it has a unique denomination. I have a lot of different types of coins but have been tinkering on the idea of collecting a certain series. I need somewhere to start i guess.

    Anyway thanks for all your help

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