I need some help please

Wasy

Can someone tell me why I see autographed cards that are slabbed by PSA/DNA and cards that are not but have an LOA from PSA? I feel so much more comfortable buying that slabbed card and I'm always wondering if someone has messed with the ones with the LOA. Why not slab them all?

jrdolan

Some people don't want their signed cards in a slab. Most of my Bench auto cards are those modern signed inserts that are certified and numbered by the card manufacturer, I keep those in a binder. I also have PSA/DNA cards that are not in slabs but have a sticker and matching LOA. Personally, if the signed card is only worth $50 or less, and that's most of them, I don't need a slab. But if it's in a slab when I buy it, then it has to stay there because the slab itself is the only proof that the auto is real.

Below are PSA/DNA cards of both types. The non-slabbed one has a permanent sticker with serial # placed directly on the card. I would be very wary of an autograph that has merely a generic "lot" LOA but no specific serial number for that auto. Who knows what's been mixed and matched in that lot, or how many hands that piece of paper has passed through, since PSA/DNA was involved?

I have several generic "the accompanying autograph is genuine" LOAs that arrived with things I have bought from reputable dealers. But now the LOA's are in my hands and since they don't describe a specific item, I can do anything I want with them. I could forge Babe Ruth's signature (assuming I could) and send along one of these pieces of paper. Not that anybody with half a brain would buy a Ruth auto without scads of proof, but you see my point. LOA's and COA's are worthless in my mind, f they don't describe the specific item or have matching serial numbers.

Wasy

Thanks jr.
Agreed coa's and loa's are worthless 99% of the time, I was just curious as to why PSA isn't consistent regarding the slab and loa.
I assume that the psa sticker that is applied directly to the card is tamper proof?

I'm not interested in the card in the attached listing but what is your take on it? It has no psa/dna sticker on the back.
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fsjeter

In this case, Mastronet didn't want to pay for X number of certifications for a large lot. PSA/DNA always does one blanket certification for large auction lots. That's also why the seller is offering a copy of the original certification. Only problem is, you don't know for sure if the seller has switched any of the cards from the original auction and is selling junk with the cert. copy. To be totally comfortable with that Banks, the buyer my have to send it to PSA/DNA anyway.

Scott

Wasy

Thanks guys, I was actually interested in a Big Mac rookie card that was signed and listed on Ebay yesterday. The seller had an LOA from PSA and claimed the card had a matching PSA sticker on the back although he didn't include a scan of the back in his auction. I asked for a scan of the back with the PSA sticker and without response from the seller he ended his auction. Like I see you guys say all the time here if it looks and smells like a rat it must be a rat.

Alan