Opinions requested: Should this Morgan be submitted?

RVDavis

A long day at the loop. This is my last post for tonight I expect.

I came across this 1878 rev 79 in my stack of coins bought and not examined. I read this as a possible MS 65. The reverse is weak; I have included a closeup of the breast detail. The coin is very attractive with gold tone around the obverse rim, my camera does not pick that up well.

So, in MS 65 this coin is worth the submission fee. Even in 64 the coin is worth some money. So opinions requested. If the recommendation is to submit I will do so and post the grade when it was received.

Rick

coinbuf

Well I'm sure no expert but looks 64ish to me, if your putting together a submission it might be worth a shot.

Chris

K6AZ

I'm fairly certain this will get AU58 at PCGS. I have one just like it that PCGS hit with a 58.

RVDavis

I am pretty comfortable it is mint state; pretty weak strike both sides but there is not a bit of wear on the normal locations. Appreciate the opinion.

Rick

K6AZ

I was with mine too, I bought it as a 63.

cohodk

Surfaces look hazy. I'm with K6az. Au-58 if not BB

100proof1957

i dont care for the breast.

RVDavis

Yep it is flat as a board for sure. No detail whatsoever.

airplanenut

Something makes me think that coin's been played with--cleaned or whizzed.

coinbuf

Well Eric sure knows this series far better than I do. what makes you think AU Eric? In the pics the luster band looks unbroken thru the field to me.

Chris

RVDavis

The fields are very nice, doesn't look whizzed to me. I have a couple of whizzed coins I use for reference. Has some hairlines. Can't say about if it was dipped, I bought it a couple of weeks ago and I don't dip 'cause I am sure I would foul it up. Here are a couple of close-ups of the obverse.

Rick

K6AZ

This date is usually very well struck. My AU58 has almost complete breast feathers. I see several rubs on this coin, and PCGS loves to slam coins with the 58 grade. We could debate whether or not it is truly mint state, but the original question was as to sending it in to PCGS, and from what I'm seeing in the images, I wouldn't submit it to PCGS.

RVDavis

Appreciate that; I am in no hurry to send it off I just sent some in anyhow.

Thanks

K6AZ

I've looked at your additional obverse closeups. They clearly show circulation marks. You can take your chances, but to answer your question, I think you are going to get AU58 if you send it to PCGS.

morgannut2

The coin is an AU-58, but this is one of those cases where perhaps a dinged uncirculated Morgan was

mishanded by a previous owner who seems to have dipped it and then rubbed off the water with a dirty towel.


Or thrown in back in a plastic roll of 20 lower end unc. coins. You have to remember that uncirculated does not mean

Mint State (the current condition). Regardless-- the best you could do is MS 61/2 due to the lines on the cheek.

Baley

Submit if you want the education. I don't think you'll like the grade it gets... AU55 to MS61, probably 58.