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LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
Here is a no stars, half dime from an eBay auction
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I love these coins (dimes too), the ones without stars (reminds me of the Gobrecht dollars).

The lighting makes it difficult to see if there are problems.

It looks too clean for something of this age, but I can't tell for sure.

Opinions? Always appreciate the discerning eyes on this forum.

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Reverse image added

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  • Great detail....it could be good, but the surface almost seems rough or etched to me like it was cleaned with a chemical that ate into the surface...............I'm not 100% on it, but that was my initial take.
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, I really don't like the picture. You can't tell if it has a nice warm color, or is dipped perfectly white!

    Based on wear alone, I'd say it would be AU-something-or-other.

    Here's my XF-45 for comparison....(And just cause I like showing it off.) image

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    I played with this in my image editor, and I can't detect any problems. It looks like it may be a nice coin. Does the seller have a solid return policy?
  • Although the detail is nice, my gut reaction is that it might be a whizzed piece and you can't see any of the imperfections with this lighting. Beware.
  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414
    I have a feeling that coin is dipped and bright white???
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  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Best guess is AU in terms of detail, but badly/heavily cleaned.
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my initial thought was "something doesn't look right." Either the lighting, surface of the coin, or detail is off.
    I'd stay away from a raw coin like that.
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  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I'm guessing it's been cleaned. The strike looks too perfect. Something doesn't look right.
  • Ack! Seated! image
    -George
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If that's the true color it's been cleaned for certain. In any case it is too uniform in appearance which tends to support it's cleaned.
    Don't like it one bit.

    roadrunner
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    The tint in the photos is from using a standard incandescent light, and either not having a good white balance on the camera or not setting it correctly.
  • Just took it into Adobe Photoshop Elements and did 'Enhance>Auto Levels'

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    -George
    42/92
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    The auction states that it has been whizzed. There are better quality ones available. I prefer originality, but that's just me.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Definitley cleaned and whizzed up to cover surface microporosity.



    TommyType,

    Love your piece! Nice coin!
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    Well, you guys are doing better than me. With these small images, I can't detect the problem. Then again, this isn't a series I have a lot of experience in.
  • mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
    Here's mine.. ms63 or so i think (it's banked)
    I wouldn't bid on that one you have pictured. Photo's aren't that hard to make. That seller is ashamed of his coin.


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  • mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
    Just found another pic of the whole slab, mine is ms 61 NGC FYI

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  • mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
    oh WTH image here's the bandwidth killer 2+meg file of my 36 37 38 39 obverse halfdimes image

    I never get to show them off.

    Apologies to the dial-upers
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  • From the Auction

    "Here's a decent example of the first type of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, with No Stars on obverse and no drapery on Ms. Liberty's elbow. These were made in 1837 in Philadelphia and then a few in the new Mint in New Orleans in 1838. This example would grade a strong AU, but unfortunately has been "whizzed", for any new collectors, this means coin was gone over with a wire wheel or brush, disturbing the surface. This would be done to pass as BU ( the whizzing creates a bright, but false luster ), or to hide bagmarks. Net effect is to lower its value by at least one full grade. Color is blast white, photo shows tan coloring, the background is white paper. My camera does strange things with color at high magnification, this is a very small coin. Shows a double-punched '8' in date, the secondary impression is so low that it overlaps the dentils, this is listed by Kevin Flynn as MDP-001 for this coin. Should be visible in the photo

    Guy has 100% feedback also but I would pass on this halfdime.

    Chris
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    The seller states that the coin is blast white from cleaning and has been whizzed. To give an idea he says the background is a white sheet of paper, but his camera does funny things (I'd get a new camera). At least the guy seems honest. So if you want a raw coin for the Dansco that might not be a bad deal.

    Edit: guess I was just a little too slow.
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  • mrdqmrdq Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭
    proof 62 versions of the coins. Not my coins, they're from an auction and i'd credit the owner if i knew who it is
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  • KoinlinkKoinlink Posts: 593 ✭✭✭

    I love the "no stars" half dimes. They look so clean unlike most other U.S. Coins.


  • << <i>I love the "no stars" half dimes. They look so clean unlike most other U.S. Coins. >>



    I completely agree. Its definatly on my list of things to buy.
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