POLL--How smart is you?

CIVITAS · December 30, 2004 4:06AM

Ajaan had an interesting idea about a poll of education levels for people here.

Bearing in mind that completed level of education doesn't necessarily have a direct effect on intelligence (I know a number of really stupid people with PhDs and a number of really smart people with GEDs) it would be intersting to know everyone's standing.

Fairlaneman · December 30, 2004 4:38AM

Common sense overides any level of education that has been completed.

JMHO.

coinkat · December 30, 2004 5:08AM

we could have atot of fun with this one... I have not voted yet.

AuldFartte · December 30, 2004 5:17AM

High school diploma, but no college degree.
I have taken about 3 years worth of college
and other technical courses over the years.
Running a business for over 20 years has to
count for something, too

CIVITAS · December 30, 2004 5:35AM

<< Common sense overides any level of education that has been completed.

JMHO. >>

I have to agree.

ajaan · December 30, 2004 6:40AM

I voted

rhound1977 · December 30, 2004 9:58AM

<< Common sense overides any level of education that has been completed.

JMHO. >>

Bravo!! Well said.......

Aethelred · December 30, 2004 10:07AM

D'oh, I can't figure out how to use this votey thing!

ajaan · December 30, 2004 10:14AM

<< How smart is you? >>

Obviously smarter than aethelbore because I figured out how to use the votey thing.

Aethelred · December 30, 2004 10:22AM

<< 

<< How smart is you? >>

Obviously smarter than aethelbore because I figured out how to use the votey thing.

>>

In a PM Don called me a baboon! The stupidest, smelliest ape of them all!

ajaan · December 30, 2004 10:27AM

<< In a PM Don called me a baboon! The stupidest, smelliest ape of them all >>

I never said stupidest.

P.S. A baboon isn't an ape, it is a monkey.

coinkat · December 30, 2004 10:31AM

I am ready to vote now... and the options are are coming up. See I told you that we would have alot of fun with this...

Fairlaneman · December 30, 2004 10:40AM

Don't get me wrong on the initial statement. Higher education is great for some people but it is a waste of time and money for other people. Just as long as a person keeps learning through the remainder of their life I believe the mission is accomplished. Nothing, IMO, replaces experience.

Could not vote because the correct answer was not present. Lets just say that after high school and a few terms in college the common sense disappeared for awhile.

Ken

wybrit · December 30, 2004 1:07PM

I've hired every level from PhDs to Tech degreed individuals to work for me at different times. I've also hired and promoted people who have not gone beyond high school. The best employee I ever had was and still is nondegreed. He has great knowledge and street smarts, works his tail off, accomplishes great things and probably trained 1-2 engineers per year in his fine career. I've had "experienced" PhDs who couldn't get a piece of equipment to run properly and would cover up the lack of efficacy of their processes. I've had green PhDs who would roll up their sleeves, lay under a machine and turn wrenches alongside the maintenance staff to get the job done and become highly regarded by tech and engineer alike in the trenches. The type of degree or lack of one is only a small piece of the equation in predicting success or problem solving capabilities.

Aethelred · December 30, 2004 1:18PM

I'm still reeling over the "baboon" comment!

By the way, I hold to my opinion that a baboon is an ape, they are too big to be a monkey!

sammydabull · December 30, 2004 1:27PM

<< I've hired every level from PhDs to Tech degreed individuals to work for me at different times. I've also hired and promoted people who have not gone beyond high school. The best employee I ever had was and still is nondegreed. He has great knowledge and street smarts, works his tail off, accomplishes great things and probably trained 1-2 engineers per year in his fine career. I've had "experienced" PhDs who couldn't get a piece of equipment to run properly and would cover up the lack of efficacy of their processes. I've had green PhDs who would roll up their sleeves, lay under a machine and turn wrenches alongside the maintenance staff to get the job done and become highly regarded by tech and engineer alike in the trenches. The type of degree or lack of one is only a small piece of the equation in predicting success or problem solving capabilities. >>

Too bad more people dont see eye to eye with this....i do not have a college degree (first year completed though) but have over 15 years of pc tech exp, and get turned down for "too entry level"

satootoko · December 30, 2004 2:19PM

You know there are a lot of doctoral degrees besides Piled Higher & Deeper.

syraq · December 30, 2004 3:29PM

Don't let this thread turn against education. Some of the smartest and most educated Darksiders seem to feel the need to apologize for creating the poll or posting their opinions and experiences. When did a Masters or PhD degree become something to be ashamed of ? Besides, there are way too many professions that cannot be practiced without a sufficient number of years of education and degrees behind, such as doctors, engineers etc. I'm currently looking to hire a young architect with good computer skills to assist me and I've seen a few so far. One of the first things I usually ask them is to make coffee and answer the phones, nothing as glamorous as they might have had in mind. If I see any unwillingness to do such tasks, I won't hire this person, not because he/she's a bad architect, but because he takes himself too seriously. I don't even drink coffee actually.

Intelligence and education combined is a wonderful thing, but the most important , as Fairlaneman stated already ,is the willingness to continue the process of learning (and self-improvement for that matter) for an entire lifetime.

That said, and I hope without any misunderstandings, I see from the results that once again the level here is very high, as with the recent language poll.

edited in between the time the server was off.

CIVITAS · December 31, 2004 1:41AM

Looks like a pretty good spread across the board.

A lot more omnipotent people here than I thought.

Steve27 · December 31, 2004 2:01AM

" Baboons are the largest members of the monkey family, possessing heads with long, naked, dog-like muzzles."

Steve27 · December 31, 2004 2:03AM

Will one of you 11 omnipotent types please make me king?

Luvdawgs · December 31, 2004 2:07AM

<< Will one of you 11 omnipotent types please make me king? >>

I'm a lowly "Princess of the North", which I don't believe entails the power to "king" someone.

tbirde56 · December 31, 2004 2:25AM

I have two 4-year degrees in History and Geography which I've never been able to actually use in a career. I took teaching classes but as just an average (and distracted) student in the mid to late '70s I wasn't recommended for a teaching certificate. They did however recommend a guy who is still in jail for murdering a coed though. But I was motivated to pursue those degrees mainly just because the subjects intrigued me and not because of job futures of which there are few if any locally. The degrees actually have ironically seemed to deter any job possibilities by making me OVER qualified for 'regular' life sustaining jobs which I would have been quite happy to take. Now, I've finally found a mid-point in a nondescript career due to seniority and capability. So, Sammy, it works both ways!

Be that as it may, the hobby and the degrees mesh quite well together!

MacCrimmon · December 31, 2004 6:16AM

Brad, you left out Krause Exemplar, Ph.D. (Photographic Detailer). Have coin, will identify.....and FAST!!!!!!!!

tbirde56 · December 31, 2004 6:38AM

Sylvestius · December 31, 2004 7:58AM

I'm currently heading for a BA in history, it won't be a very good one though. Looking at a Lower Second classification which is just below average. I'm in my final year and it's just getting too hard.

But when i get a degree under my belt regardless of the classification, i haven't got a clue what i want to do next. I suppose i'll take a post grad degree in further education to enable me to teach adults history. Although i dunno if i could cope or even want a job like that. So options are still open.

As for the previous remarks on experience being worth more than education, i'll second that motion.

Luvdawgs · December 31, 2004 8:04AM

I'm kind of like you, Tbirde...I have a B.A. in Economics which I never used professionally; just enjoyed the subject matter. I also took a lot of Spanish
courses and some French, but only use them personally and not frequently enough. Good thing I was able to get into real estate title examining with my
husband or goodness knows what I may have wound up doing!

newsman · December 31, 2004 8:23AM

For those having trouble with voting, here's a guide:

B.S. = that's self-explanatory
M.S. = more of the same
Ph.D = piled higher and deeper

ajaan · December 31, 2004 8:27AM

I have a M.A. in Geography, with emphasis on Physical Geography.

tbirde56 · December 31, 2004 10:37AM

I'll bet THAT was a good line for a single guy!

Steve27 · December 31, 2004 10:38AM

" I have a M.A. in Geography, with emphasis on Physical Geography."

That explains a lot. With all the changes in the world over the last decade, I don't blame you for hiding under a mushroom.

wybrit · December 31, 2004 10:50AM

I'll bet THAT was a good line for a single guy!

Can't be as bad as saying "I'm an engineering major."

cladking · December 31, 2004 10:51AM

Most of what I know I picked up in kindergarden or on the streets. So I voted school of knocks.

...and I didn't really go to kindergarden, it's just an expression.

...that was the streets with libraries and the like on them.

sumnom · December 31, 2004 11:47AM

There sure a lot of geographers here. I am a recovering geographer myself.

sumnom · December 31, 2004 11:47AM

Will one of you 11 omnipotent types please make me king?

No.

ajaan · December 31, 2004 12:24PM

But I don't work as a Geographer, although I am a certified to teach Earth Science.

MSD61 · December 31, 2004 1:14PM

To be honest most of my education came from the school of hard knocks and common sense. However, I did piece together 4 years of college while in the service studying human behavioral science, psychology and philosophy. Now I just read a lot

Conder101 · December 31, 2004 6:37PM

I have two Associates Degrees, One in electronics under my name and one in chemistry under the name of Evelyn. I was within a few credits of a third one in computer science but I changed majors an never finished the computer science degree. I'd like to go back and pick it up but it has been so long that I would need to go back and start over on it again.

POLL--How smart is you?

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