New Purchase: 1882-CC PCGS MS-63 PL Morgan (was DMPL) -- Photos
Stuart
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Here's a new purchase that I made today, with an interesting story from a dealer whom I've worked with before, and whom I trust. I have not yet received the coin, so the photos are from the original seller.
It's an 1882-CC PCGS MS-63 PL Morgan Dollar that was recently (I assume cracked) and sent in for regrade. It went in as a PCGS MS-63 DMPL with the intent of getting an upgrade to MS-64 DMPL , and came back with a downgrade in designation as an MS-63 PL.
This is either evidence that PCGS is raising the bar for the DMPL designation and tightening up on their grading, or perhaps is an example of a "liner" MS-63 PL coin that just missed MS-64 DMPL. I felt that this represented good quality and value for the money...
It's an 1882-CC PCGS MS-63 PL Morgan Dollar that was recently (I assume cracked) and sent in for regrade. It went in as a PCGS MS-63 DMPL with the intent of getting an upgrade to MS-64 DMPL , and came back with a downgrade in designation as an MS-63 PL.
This is either evidence that PCGS is raising the bar for the DMPL designation and tightening up on their grading, or perhaps is an example of a "liner" MS-63 PL coin that just missed MS-64 DMPL. I felt that this represented good quality and value for the money...
Stuart
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Brian: That's a really nice 1884-CC that appears to me to be a lock MS-64 DMPL, with a shot at MS-65 PL/DMPL with only the apparent frost breaks on the eagle and a few too many minor contact marks on Miss Liberty's cheek perhaps holding it back at MS-64 DMPL. The reflective fields look very deep from your photo.
Please let us know how she grades.
Stuart
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Looks like a DMPLDOLLAR picture ?? Nice coin.....very nice !!
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I'm looking forward to receiving and photographing her, because she appears to be very photogenic!
Stuart
Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal
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To help new non-Morgan Collectors who want a Carson City Example here are my observations
1) Marks in the KEY focal area of the check, then left field/neck are progressively MORE TOLORATED in this order
'79,'78,'80,'81,'82,'83,'84, '85........in the second series '89,'93,'92,'90-'91(same)
2) The definition of DMPL really is very strict verses earlier PCGS coins requiring full "clear watery fields"
where newsprint must be clearly reflected and read at a minimum of over OVER 6 inches.
3) The definition now of PL seems arbitary and unclear, I genuinely don't think PCGS has a uniform definition.
4) Wise collectors (I got this from Ms. Sperber while talking at an auction).. are looking for liner MS 64, or MS 65-6 coins
with clear refectivity in the 5"-6.5" area that will potentially upgrade if definitions change again at some point!
As far as Sturt's coin, it meets the Sperber idea so far as I can see, except he's doing it with MS-63's. It is in fact, to be
fair to the PCGS grader (gee I hate to do that), a very tough coin: 66 reverse, 65 fields, 63 cheek, 65 luster, nice
strike--- No big distracting line abrasions. I sure wouldn't want to grade it!!!
66 pl/DPL (note: different definition). As a lock 65, the controlling factor will be the number of tiny luster grazes on the cheek frost at 5X loop. If there are absolutely none, or a tiny couple, then all bets are off, and we could be looking at 67!!!
The coin meets the "eye appeal" requirement to 7, it's just the number of small luster frost breaks at 5X, IMHO because the fiels are pristine and 7.
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