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Is this too good to be true?

gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
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  • kiddkidd Posts: 230
    Looks good to me as far as the guarantee, if i won the auction i would print that page so i would have it in writing.
    Pretty coin, don`t know what it would grade though.
    If you can read this, your too close.

    A DAMMIT BOY from Jonesy 1/25/05

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    the cat ate my blue fish.
  • gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
    I just bid on it but was too late. Perhaps it is for the best. He guaranteed it was genuine but who knows if a reputable company would slab it as is or if there were hairlines galore. Oh well...
  • eagle7eagle7 Posts: 1,441
    Dont bother with buying raw coins on EBAY which, if the way they are described is true, are worth much more than the selling price. If you think for one moment that someone is going to sell a 3000 dollar and up proof morgan dollar for 1500 dollars, you are sadly mistaken. This coin is not real or it has some real problems which limit its value to well below 1500 dollars. this person is not going to lose money on this coin, the buyer will though! Stay away!
    In an insane society, a sane person will appear to be insane.
  • TWODOGSTWODOGS Posts: 1,419
    It looks like a polished and tooled 1898 to me.
    J.C.
    *******************************************************************************

    imageimageSee ya on the other side, Dudes. image
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    It looks to me that the photos have been touched up, maybe a little blurred. The colors look off as well.

    I always ask myself this question: Why is this coin not in a slab?

    You have to figure there would be at least double the bids on this coin if it was slabbed.

    I would not bid on it unless it was sight seen.

    Must my uneducated opinion,
    Ray
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks really messed up. Probably polished. Anacs might grade it but not as a proof. $15 coin IMHO.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MORGANHUNTER2MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭
    count the denticles - a proof has 2 more than a business strike. This coin was up for auction about a month ago- claimed it as a pr65 then- same coin different pics.
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Gemini12398, count your blessings you bid too late. That coin is badly cleaned or polished and is clearly NOT original. Shame on you for even trying.
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    My concern is that the money-back guarantee says "If you send this in to ANACS, NGC, PCGS, PCI, or SEGS and they tell you it's not genuine you get 100% of your money back plus shipping plus up to 50 bucks for the grading of the coin."

    What if it slabs, but not as a proof? Or it gets bodybagged for altered surfaces? A bodybag doesn't mean the coin isn't genuine, does it?

    That could be messy.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207 ✭
    Polished with altered surfaces....if it's genuine.
  • gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
    Mr. Feld, I hang my head in shame. Just frustrated that I can't attend the FUN show where I can grab up goodies galore. Hate that impulse buying (for garbage)

    David
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    David, don't be too hard on yourself, and please don't call me "Mr." Feld.image
  • gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
    OK Mark, will do image
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    Be glad he didn't call you Dr. Feld. (although the Ebay coin needs a checkup!)image
    morgannut2
  • CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
    Guys, guys, guys......Let me ask you this: If you had this coin, it was genuine, you're an ebay seller with 1,000 feedbacks (mostly coins), and you know the "bay of e" auction game, wouldn't you spend the $30 to have it authenticated/slabbed/graded at PCGS?

    'Nuff said - It's a problem coin, even if genuine.

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
    The seller guraranteed it was genuine, but did not gurantee the grade. As others stated, that coin is a polished POS, but the gurantee would have been "satisfied" if it was a genuine polished POS. Very misleading. It was fortuitous for Gemini that he "missed out" on this one.
  • gemini12398gemini12398 Posts: 885 ✭
    Guys, thank you for your help and insights and a Happy New Year to all!

    Hopefully we will all find the coins we are looking for!

    David

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