I don't see what your point is? More fuel for the fire. I have 100's of examples myself but would never gloat. The market determines the value of moderns. Good for you in my opinion. I'll also keep selling moderns as long as the market is there. CD (NEMC)
<< <i>Russ I would have given you 33x your cost if I only knew. Man the best I have ever done is about 10x cost. >>
That one isn't even my best multiple. I once sold another modern for 38 times my cost, and it wasn't even graded! Of course, on that one, my cost was $2.
User ID Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction madmartyk ( 2707) Retracted: US $800.00 Explanation: Entered wrong bid amount Bid: Dec-10-04 10:38:11 PST Retracted: Dec-10-04 11:07:35 PST
I admit jealousy as its the first step to recovery.............your too fast on the buy it nows and the last minute bids.....not to mention the ability to see through crappy ebay pictures and hazy mint set plastic.
oh.........and you do suck.
Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
<< <i>OK, did you count the cost of the non-profitable ones? >>
There's probably a total of 10 graded ones that I've lost money on out of over 100 sold, but quite a few breakevens. I usually lose money selling off the raw dogs, but at a cost $10 to $12 a coin it isn't much of a loss.
<< <i>Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
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I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much...
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
What is interesting is you and Marty aren't the only ones breaking up these SMS and proof sets and submitting them. At some point I would think that after several hundred of the same date and grade are certified, the rewards will diminish.
<< <i>Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
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I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much... >>
Aw, come on, a Russ special and you weren't willing to put up $8k?
<< Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
Bid retraction and cancellation history
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I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much... >>
Aw, come on, a Russ special and you weren't willing to put up $8k? >>
Ummmmm, NO!
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
<< <i>At some point I would think that after several hundred of the same date and grade are certified, the rewards will diminish. >>
Agreed. But with some the pop grows very slowly, and the Accented Hair in PR68CAM is one of those. A year ago, it was a pop 31, today it's a pop 35. During that 12 month period, over 300 of the coins were submitted for grading.
Well, that one may have risen slowly but I have seen some other dates explode in population, and I certainly would not tie up that kind of money when you could buy another one, maybe with only the CAM designation for a lot less.
By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff?
<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
Not a problem for me... I send to NGC anyways... but I can count my scores on one hand... and that's over more than 6 months' time... Well, I've got 3 shows coming up in the next 2 months Though, FUN probally won't produce anything, especially with Marty getting there before me...
<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
I'm the same way with the Morgans. I'm waiting on a lot of about 300 raw coins, and whatever needs to be graded is going across the street. I simply can not tie up that kind of money for three months.
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<< <i>I don't see what your point is? >>
Read some of the other threads and all will be revealed.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>How many of the 35 Pop have you made? >>
Three.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Russ I would have given you 33x your cost if I only knew. Man the best I have ever done is about 10x cost. >>
That one isn't even my best multiple. I once sold another modern for 38 times my cost, and it wasn't even graded! Of course, on that one, my cost was $2.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>You must live in a mansion!!!! >>
No, but I did just move to a larger refrigerator box.
Russ, NCNE
I cant even call it Modern Crap !!
Bid retraction and cancellation history
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madmartyk ( 2707) Retracted: US $800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong bid amount Bid: Dec-10-04 10:38:11 PST
Retracted: Dec-10-04 11:07:35 PST
<< <i>(well, not counting a pcgs grading fee and postage) >>
Hey! I included grading fee and postage in mine!
Russ, NCNE
They could have bought a real coin for that much money.
Mike
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
oh.........and you do suck.
<< <i>Did you count the cost of the submissions that didn't make that grade? >>
These days I only submit profitable ones. Anything at PR67 or lower, I sell off raw.
Russ, NCNE
OK, did you count the cost of the non-profitable ones?
<< <i>Did you count the cost of the submissions that didn't make that grade? >>
Everyone sends the AU's to Marty for submittal.
<< <i>OK, did you count the cost of the non-profitable ones? >>
There's probably a total of 10 graded ones that I've lost money on out of over 100 sold, but quite a few breakevens. I usually lose money selling off the raw dogs, but at a cost $10 to $12 a coin it isn't much of a loss.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
Bid retraction and cancellation history
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madmartyk ( 2707) Retracted: US $800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong bid amount Bid: Dec-10-04 10:38:11 PST
Retracted: Dec-10-04 11:07:35 PST >>
I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much...
<< <i>
<< <i>Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
Bid retraction and cancellation history
User ID Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction
madmartyk ( 2707) Retracted: US $800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong bid amount Bid: Dec-10-04 10:38:11 PST
Retracted: Dec-10-04 11:07:35 PST >>
I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much... >>
Aw, come on, a Russ special and you weren't willing to put up $8k?
Eric, why would that be a bad thing. Collectors everywhere would appreciate that trend.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
<< <i>They already have on the 1967s! >>
Yeah...
Most of my 'scores' so far, have ranged in the break-even to very little profit range...
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<< Hey, what's up with this? What's Mad Marty up to?
Bid retraction and cancellation history
User ID Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction
madmartyk ( 2707) Retracted: US $800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong bid amount Bid: Dec-10-04 10:38:11 PST
Retracted: Dec-10-04 11:07:35 PST >>
I had entered $8000, I think that was a bit much... >>
Aw, come on, a Russ special and you weren't willing to put up $8k? >>
Ummmmm, NO!
<< <i>At some point I would think that after several hundred of the same date and grade are certified, the rewards will diminish. >>
Agreed. But with some the pop grows very slowly, and the Accented Hair in PR68CAM is one of those. A year ago, it was a pop 31, today it's a pop 35. During that 12 month period, over 300 of the coins were submitted for grading.
Russ, NCNE
By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff?
<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
Not a problem for me... I send to NGC anyways... but I can count my scores on one hand... and that's over more than 6 months' time... Well, I've got 3 shows coming up in the next 2 months Though, FUN probally won't produce anything, especially with Marty getting there before me...
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<< <i>Though, FUN probally won't produce anything, especially with Marty getting there before me... >>
Marty's an old geezer. You can out-run him to the tables.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i><< Though, FUN probally won't produce anything, especially with Marty getting there before me... >>
Marty's an old geezer. You can out-run him to the tables.
Russ, NCNE
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Hey I got my turbo powered old fart scooter all ready!!!
Watch where you point that thing. George, stay away from the weiners and you'll be fine.
and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
<< <i>
<< <i>By the way, how are the new fees going to impact your operations with this stuff? >>
More stuff will be going to NGC. Not really because of the fee increase, though. More so because of the new five coin minimum for regulars and the ridiculous turnaround times. I've just turned three submissions at NGC that all arrived later than several I have in at PCGS right now.
Russ, NCNE >>
I'm the same way with the Morgans. I'm waiting on a lot of about 300 raw coins, and whatever needs to be graded is going across the street. I simply can not tie up that kind of money for three months.
<< <i>
<< <i>Though, FUN probally won't produce anything, especially with Marty getting there before me... >>
Marty's an old geezer. You can out-run him to the tables.
Russ, NCNE >>
But he's still got a whole day and a half head start on me........
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