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Here's my 1955 PR-67 "CAM" ... what do you think?

Need to work on the focus thing, but I think these images display the depth of the CAM and the contrast ... I wuz robbed.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I believe that PCGS was incorrect in their assessment of that coin.

    Russ, NCNE
  • Beautiful coin. Got any larger photo's???
  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,656 ✭✭✭
    Looks CAM to me, but Russ is the real expert here.
  • Mid 50's Jeff ?

    You got jobbed,thats a DCAM
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  • badgerbadger Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    The grading on mid-50's Jeff Proofs seems to be very tough. If it's an consolation, they seem to be consistent.
    Collector of Modern Silver Proofs 1950-1964 -- PCGS Registry as Elite Cameo

    Link to 1950 - 1964 Proof Registry Set
    1938 - 1964 Proof Jeffersons w/ Varieties
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I thought PCGS was never wrong???
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I thought PCGS was never wrong??? >>



    That's only on your submissions.

    Russ, NCNE
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Randy

    PCGS and NGC are very strict on the 50's Jeffersons. if i knew what the requirement was to make the leap from CAM to DCAM i would hold it in a very secure vault!!!image

    i had a pair of NGC 1955's in PR68CAM, sold the lesser and sent the winner for crossover-----denied. cracked and submitted raw to PCGS-----PR67CAM. a few months ago i won a PCGS PR66DCAM at eBay and can't see the difference in the two regarding contrast. i'll save them both and hopefully i can be at a show where HRH can explain the nuances of the designations to me.

    they seem consistent as badger posted. we've done the comparisons with coins at the CNS Meeting and we both have our "hose" stories besides this date. one of my fantasy trips is to sneak into the PCGS facility for a quick peak at the Jefferson CAM/DCAM grading set.

    al h.image
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Hi, Al! Yes, I know PCGS expects a lot from a 1950s DCAM. The bar is high and I think this coin clears it. I'll post much better pictures and then let you make the call. I badly need a copy stand ... you can't hold the camera still enough to get in-focus pix ... and, I need to learn the editing software.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Randy

    i think PCGS needs less from a coin to be a DCAM then they do for it not to be a CAM.

    to be a non-Cameo
    =----the coin simply needs to be.

    to be a Cameo
    ============----the coin needs to have mirrored fields and unbroken frost, no matter how faint.

    to not be a Cameo
    ===============================----i cannot explain the nature of this characteristic, but i know it exists.

    to be a Deep Cameo
    =================----the coin must have mirrored fields with no blemishes and heavy frost with no breaks.

    it might not make sense to you, but it does to me.

    al h.image
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Ask Carl to put up a pic of the one that disappointed him.
    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For what it is worth, here are a couple of pics of my 1955 in 7dcam in an OGH - I have had the coin since 1997.
    Sorry for the quality of the pics - I was in a bit of a hurry.

    I agree with Keets' assessment of what it takes to be cam or dcam.
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    I hope the links to the pics work - only the second time I have tried it.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The URL you recently followed has expired. Please return to the refering page and try the link again. >>



    Russ, NCNE
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Russ
    I tried to fix the link but it still does not seem to be working.

    Here is a link for where the photos are located. Maybe one of the more astute members can fix the links. (I would appreciate a PM of what I did wrong).

    Link to 55 dcam pics

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    Here ya go ... no offense intended, and I really like yours, but my coin makes this look like a brilliant...

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