Private feedback seller guarantees it's genuine

satootoko

Offered at $9.99 start bid plus $5 S/H from China, listed weight and diameter are correct, but 1906 Krause KM#1129 books at $225 XF, $450 Unc.

It's a new area for me (Korea under Japanese occupation). Does anyone have any information on diagnostics?

Sylvestius

From China, alarm bells. No way am i saying all Chinese sellers sell fakes, but the sheer quantity of fakes coming out of China in recent years makes me take that extra step of caution. The fact that they are also insisting it's geniune, why did they bring that up? Unless they're trying to convince you.

Hiden feedback doesn't necessarly mean anything, i mean my ebay account has its feedback hidden, until recently i ceased using it at the end of 2003, then when i came back to ebay a few months ago it had totally changed and feedback was hidden. I still haven't figured out how to unhide it yet. So hidden feedback might just be someone who's not much good with ebay or perhaps a computer. Then again in this case it'd make me think that it's perhaps for a different reason.

danglen

Even if it turns out to be a fake, it might be worth taking a chance at $15.00. And if it turns out to be real, it would be quite a coup

tbirde56

It looks VF-XF, cleaned at one time to me. I agree with Danglen.

PuddlePirate

I don't know anything about them. Price appears right if you want to chance it. At the worst you have an interesting counterfeit and at the best you come out well ahead, cleaned or not. It comes down to if you want it or not.

See I told you I don't know anything about them and I was absolutely no help whatsoever.

astrorat

Fake world coins from China are like sand at the beach. I have not seen this piece before (and cannot tell from the photo whether it is real or not), but $10 is about the going "retail" price for single counterfeit world crown size coins on eBay. In bulk, they sell for $1-2 a piece. US counterfiets bring a little more (i.e. Liberty Seated and Trade dollars).

Danglen has got a point, however. Just think of it as a putting $15 down to win on a 15 to 1 horse at the track . . . you never know . . . then again, I have more faith in the horse!

Lane

satootoko

Looks like the consensus matches my own thoughts.

I've got a snipe set at $10.50, so if anyone else bids I probably won't get it, but even that is above my usual 10 buck limit for a counterfeit.

Askari

I know nothing about these coins, but this piece actually strikes me as looking "natural" with regard to wear and toning. I'd gamble on it. At least this seller has reasonable shipping. The cat value alone would make it worth sending in for certification.

satootoko

<< <i>I know nothing about these coins, but this piece actually strikes me as looking "natural" with regard to wear and toning. I'd gamble on it. At least this seller has reasonable shipping. The cat value alone would make it worth sending in for certification. >>

Would any of the major graders authenticate the body bag they would probably consign it to because of that harsh cleaning visible in the fields on the reverse, under the tarnish?

Askari

I don't know ... who am I to sl*b a coin? However, I understand you can tell some of them you want to certify its authenticity whether it gets BB'd or not. You ought to get some service for your fee.

canadiancoinguy

The dragon looks okay. But the side with the characters "half won"- the color of the cleaned area is very suspect IMO.

"Dirtying" counterfeits is one of the newer things the guys have come up with. The main thing I'd suggest would be to look at what else the seller's selling. I never buy from people with private feedback profiles.

danglen

NCS will authenticate it for you nad put it in plastic even if it has been cleaned, as long as it's authentic.

JamminJ

ANACS will also authenticate problem coins and slab them with a "net grade" and a problem notation.

-JamminJ

sumnom

It looks very nice and very real in the scan but who can know for sure? I saw some very nice looking Meiji 50 sen peices the other day in Seoul. The looked spetacular until I picked one up and realized right off the bat that it was far too light. Otherwise they were just fantastic.

Korean half won looks very nice and I agree with Askari that the toning loooks good. I guess you can't go wrong for the price.

sumnom

According to my Korean "redbook," the diameter is 31mm, not 30mm.

See Hanguk hwapye kagyok torok, page 181, 2004 edition. 2003 edition says the same thing.

satootoko

<< <i>According to my Korean "redbook," the diameter is 31mm, not 30mm. >>

Thanks for the info Josh. That pretty much confirms my basic suspicion.

I was going by my measurement of the picture in Krause, which is not the most accurate way to determine a coin's correct size.

sumnom

Good luck anyway, Roy. The images sure look nice. It may turn out to be the real thing.