Whats it take to get a pedigree on a slab ?
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the set has to be 100% complete, and in the "Top 5" and that may even have changed. Initially, it's free.... Any upgrades, replacement coins, to the set, will cost something...Maybe $5..??
Anyone else have more recent info?
I'll probably be displaying the set later in 2005.
Tom
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
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After that it is $5/slab (standard reholdering charge- I've never been able to have a coin pedigreed at a show at $10 show reholder charge- they always send the coin back to the shop), puls shipping.
A valuable pedigree. In the rare coin market a pedigree is a contributing factor in the pride of ownership and value of the coin. Coins from famous collections such as Eliasberg, Norweb, Garrett, etc., usually command a premium in the marketplace. If you participate in the PCGS Set RegistrySM program your set may qualify for the free pedigree service. The free pedigree service policy is as follows:
The set must be 100% complete.
The set must be in the top 5 in the Registry.
Sets with less than 10 coins may be pedigreed if warranted. The decision will be that of PCGS experts.
The Registry member is responsible for shipping and handling costs.
The fee for pedigrees for upgrades to your set submitted after the initial pedigree is $5 a coin ($20 a coin for coins graded MS or Proof 70.) Your set must remain in the top five to qualify.
To confirm that your set qualifies for the free Pedigree Service, contact customer service at setregistry@collectors.com. Then mail with your coins a PCGS submission form and a printed page from the set registry that lists your set in the top five.
Please note: Pedigrees can be up to 22 characters in length. If the coin has a variety designation (i.e. Type 1, Type 2, etc.), this is included as part of the total character count. Please note on your submission form if you would like your coins sequentially numbered. PCGS no longer certifies coins with green inserts.
If your question is about adding a pedigree such as 'Eliasberg' to a slab, then I would say you need photographic proof that your's is the same coin shown in the Eliasberg catalog. Thats what I have provided to PCGS for a number of coins and they have obliged.
The Mad Marty Collection
If you know how to do a message board search - search for pedigree in the Q & A Forum
David Hall answered about 7 questions on pedigree's and what they need to verify to put them on
or else if he did not ask your specific question, you could ask what you are onterested in, and he may answer it sometime in the next few weeks
If you want Noreeb or Eliasberg, or some other famous collection - they need a sales catalog with picture....
it may be free for an 'all-time' finest set
shipping/handling/ insurance to and from Newport
coins out of your possession for ??3??? months
I do not think you could put on 'The Mad Marty Collection'
you may want to wait on a series until you think you are done adding to it
I have posted the ? for HRH !
-or- you have one of the well known top sets (I know that's not me).
They do not pedigree modern coins.
The set needs to be complete.
There is no charge (except for shipping and insurance both ways).
They will only do it once for your set.
You may submit coins at a later date if you set remains in the top four for a reholder fee (plus your shipping and insurance).
The coins will take about the same amount of time as a reqular submission (well worth the wait).
(Some people will pay less for the coins because it will cost them $5 to reholder to remove the pedigree.)
I'm glad I had it done and would do it again (even if some would laugh at me).
A label is different than a pedigree. If you punch in a cert number on the cert verification, you will see the pedigree.
Link to one of my pedigree coins
I was able to get my Mercury Dime set done. An example below.
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
It takes about the same time to pedigree a set as it does to get the coins reholdered- about 3-4 weeks.
$$5/ coin reholdering fee
it may be free for an 'all-time' finest set
As I mentioned above, it is free if your set is in the top 5 of that set- (only nees to be the current top 5.
don't get the top five requirement. A complete Morgan set in AU-58/63 matched for toning etc would be a major accomplishment and worth perhaps as much as the number 1 Washington '32-'64 Quarters set with varities. Why do one and not the other, if someone spent a lifetime assembling either set? It seems like discrimination in favor of the very wealthy and a restriction as to the type of coins the less affluent of us may have pedigreed for our familys pleasure/insurance protection/documentation.
That's just PCGS's rule.
Also as mentioend above, they will pedigree certain coins from certain Famous sets (e.g., Eiasberg, Norweb, etc.- you will need to provide evidence that the coin came form the set; e.g., if the coin is pictured in the auction catalog, and can be identified form the pic; if the coin is in the auction flip and identified by a major auction house as "Norweb, etc.).
The Mad Marty Collection
Marty's Cook Ilsand set is pedigeed; I beleive he has the #1 set in that catagory in the Registry.
<< <i>The Mad Marty collection is a Pedigree !
I have posted the ? for HRH ! >>
Your question has been ANSWERED!!! Re-Read!! Marty got his pedigreed, because his Cook Island Dong Dollar Registry Set was 100% complete, and in the top 5... he got them pedigreed... then he has upgraded a few coins since, and sent those coins in to be reholdered with the pedigree for $5 plus shipping per coin, and now has the replaced coins that he has given a few out and sold a few....... now, if you will READ THE REPLIES, you'll have your answer, which has been stated close to a dozen times in this thread.........
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Dont yell at me, i aint your your little brother.
I am not stupid,dont treat me as such,i read very well, thank you !
<< <i>Ummm, not entirely sure that ALL registry sets qualify, but...
the set has to be 100% complete, and in the "Top 5" and that may even have changed. Initially, it's free.... Any upgrades, replacement coins, to the set, will cost something...Maybe $5..??
Anyone else have more recent info? >>
MrEarlyGold:
<< <i>I'm in the middle of doing one but at NGC. The cost is quite reasonable at 4 bucks per slab. Bubblehead is correct in that generally speaking it has to be complete. Generally speaking although I'm not sure what constitutes complete. In the case I'm mentioning it's every date and mint . About 180 of them. But it's not complete complete as off the charts varieties are also being added. >>
foodude:
<< <i>Top 5 Registry set. I don't recall if it must be 100% complete, or just a certain percentage. First time is free (but you pay for any shipping charges). For example, when I had the 35 coins in one of my Franklins sets pedigreed, all I paid was the shipping charge.
After that it is $5/slab (standard reholdering charge- I've never been able to have a coin pedigreed at a show at $10 show reholder charge- they always send the coin back to the shop), puls shipping >>
Grip:
<< <i>This should help;
A valuable pedigree. In the rare coin market a pedigree is a contributing factor in the pride of ownership and value of the coin. Coins from famous collections such as Eliasberg, Norweb, Garrett, etc., usually command a premium in the marketplace. If you participate in the PCGS Set RegistrySM program your set may qualify for the free pedigree service. The free pedigree service policy is as follows:
The set must be 100% complete.
The set must be in the top 5 in the Registry.
Sets with less than 10 coins may be pedigreed if warranted. The decision will be that of PCGS experts.
The Registry member is responsible for shipping and handling costs.
The fee for pedigrees for upgrades to your set submitted after the initial pedigree is $5 a coin ($20 a coin for coins graded MS or Proof 70.) Your set must remain in the top five to qualify.
To confirm that your set qualifies for the free Pedigree Service, contact customer service at setregistry@collectors.com. Then mail with your coins a PCGS submission form and a printed page from the set registry that lists your set in the top five.
Please note: Pedigrees can be up to 22 characters in length. If the coin has a variety designation (i.e. Type 1, Type 2, etc.), this is included as part of the total character count. Please note on your submission form if you would like your coins sequentially numbered. PCGS no longer certifies coins with green inserts. >>
CCU:
<< <i>If your question is about pedigreeing a registry set with your name on it, I think everyone else already answered for you.
If your question is about adding a pedigree such as 'Eliasberg' to a slab, then I would say you need photographic proof that your's is the same coin shown in the Eliasberg catalog. Thats what I have provided to PCGS for a number of coins and they have obliged. >>
fcloud:
<< <i>The set needs to be in the top four (not five as most people think).
-or- you have one of the well known top sets (I know that's not me).
They do not pedigree modern coins.
The set needs to be complete.
There is no charge (except for shipping and insurance both ways).
They will only do it once for your set.
You may submit coins at a later date if you set remains in the top four for a reholder fee (plus your shipping and insurance).
The coins will take about the same amount of time as a reqular submission (well worth the wait).
(Some people will pay less for the coins because it will cost them $5 to reholder to remove the pedigree.)
I'm glad I had it done and would do it again (even if some would laugh at me).
A label is different than a pedigree. If you punch in a cert number on the cert verification, you will see the pedigree.
Link to one of my pedigree coins
I was able to get my Mercury Dime set done. An example below. >>
I believe your question was answered, correctly, several times... BTW, if you go into the Registry Home, and click benefits... you get this window, that answers your questions straight from PCGS... Link
And I do not see any conflicting replies, a couple instances of people not sure on some small exact detail, but that was later corrected/filled-in by other replies...
And as long as you continue to act stupid and not listen, I will treat you like "my little brother."
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1. The pedigree must be on line 3 of the slab and limited to 22 digits. (OK so far)
2. ANY other designations currently on the slab line 3 MUST remain and must be part of the 22 digits. (Big, big problem for me) I don't want line 3 to read "VDB SJ Cohen Collectio" "Lincoln SJ Cohen Colle"or "Brilliant SJ Cohen Col" or "Satin SJ Cohen Collect" on my 1909VDB, 1909, 1936 type 2 and type 1 Lincoln proofs. No compromise from PCGS.
3. I realize that when I sell my set the pedigree would be a negative. It would have been there for MY enjoyment only, and I would have done it if they would have allowed the consistant pedigree of "SJ Cohen Collection" on all 26 coins instead of just 22 of the coins. Steve
My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry
If you simply want to get a pedigree on a set, you may try something like an earlier proof or mint set (1957?). It may be the easiest way to get a pedigree on a handful of coins. I know it won't be a lot of coins, but should be posible.
George (JrGMan2004), Chill man, it the Holiday Season!
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
All i wanted to know was if i could get my proof set pedigreed !
Similiar to the Mad Marty pedigree.
didnt wanna start a big ole pissing match.
Sure you can, if your one of the top 4 1957 proof sets!!
Bite Me !
But thanks for the info,hope i can make top 4 with my set,gonna take another coin or so to get er done.
BTW
Did i tell you lately to get a straw ?
Cause " YOU SUCK "
Proof
<< <i>I had thought hard and long about pedigreeing my Lincoln cent wheat proof collection. I decided not to do it for the following reasons:
1. The pedigree must be on line 3 of the slab and limited to 22 digits. (OK so far)
2. ANY other designations currently on the slab line 3 MUST remain and must be part of the 22 digits. (Big, big problem for me) I don't want line 3 to read "VDB SJ Cohen Collectio" "Lincoln SJ Cohen Colle"or "Brilliant SJ Cohen Col" or "Satin SJ Cohen Collect" on my 1909VDB, 1909, 1936 type 2 and type 1 Lincoln proofs. No compromise from PCGS.
Steve
Steve -
This 22 digit limit is news to me -
I've had PCGS add pedigrees or make existing pedigrees on all of my coins consistent over the last 12 - 18 months. I spent a fair amount of time working with David Hall and then Gordon Wrubel on the format and never once did the limit come up.
I'm not sure I follow the example of the 1909-S VDB above, as I would assume that wouldn't take up much room on the slab - at least it ought to take up less room than the type and variety of my coin shown here:
I assume that line 1 is the top line on the slab, line 2 is the PCGS grade, line 3 is the variety designation and, on my slab, line 4 is the pedigree. Can you PM me and explain?
Thanks -