These came in the mail today from PCGS!
MadMarty
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I swear I did not tweek anything on the picture. The frost on the Kennedy is white and thick! Now I know why none of the others crossed!
It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!
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Capped Bust Half Series
Capped Bust Half Dime Series
Herb
Cameron Kiefer
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
nice coins, both with intense frost. despite that, i think may each suffer from slight rub that could limit them to 68DCAM. did they come from the same set??
al h.
<< <i>i think may each suffer from slight rub that could limit them to 68DCAM >>
Those are the two that did cross at 69DCAM.
Russ, NCNE
First, how many proof sets did you have to look through before you found these?
Second, is it worth the submission fees for a deep cameo 69-s jefferson? If you wanted to sell it, what would you get for it?
Curious because I have such items, but the fees seem to make it less than worthwhile for me..
David
David
do you think they are 69's?? if so, what are your thoughts on the areas that appear as frost breaks and/or rub??
al h.
<< <i>do you think they are 69's?? if so, what are your thoughts on the areas that appear as frost breaks and/or rub?? >>
I don't know about the nickel, but there is nothing about the Kennedy that precludes it from grading PR69. The shiny patch in the hair and the base of the shield is common on the 1968 through 1970 proofs, particularly the 1969. It is caused when the metal doesn't push all the way in to the die.
Russ, NCNE
these coins are a good example where the intensity of the frost----early strike from fresh dies----may be a negative factor for the coins to the extent that it'll show any post strike contact. perhaps you're correct about a weaker strike, but that in itself should constitute a negative towards the grade. there's more than just contrast to be considered. there are also other areas which show friction. my impression is that the coins are early strikes off fresh and properly prepared dies that got the market bump of one point, the benefit of the doubt if you will.
i'd like to see some of the other coins from the submission. i'd imagine they must be hairlined in obvious areas if these are the best of the bunch. no doubt these stood out in the eyes of the grader. right now PCGS is tough on Jeffersons and the result is almost predictable, for me at least. i've submitted some of the tougher dates, 1969 and 1972 in particular, which weren't as bright white as either of these yet had a more even appearance----and no hairlines to my eyes.
still nice coins.
al h.
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