2005 Topps Heritage: Now we are talking!

joestalin

Here is a link to the beckett article. Two of my wishes have come true, it looks like some of the biggies are
going to sign autos and they will all sign in the same quantity! 475 card set looks tasty. I would LOVE
to see Bonds and Arod on the auto checklist too. Can't wait!

JS

Heritage Preview

schr1st

I'm kind of curious as to why they say that the Black Chrome Refractors are new, since they were in last year's product. I think I may have to work on a set of these this year.

pandrews

you can definitely count me in for busting a few boxes! is there a release date yet?

Lothar52

anybody feel like collecting 1956's too??? WOW..those look awesome!!!!!

im going to go look at my 56's....what the heck..im on christmas break...

Loth

Stone193

Gentlemen
Get ready for the "hunt for heritage" coming to a target, walmart near you! I will probably buy a few hobby boxes also - don't know about a case. Let's get the trades set early. Anyone going the case route? Even with 10 boxes, you have a chance of coming up very shy on certain commons.
On the Black chrome - I agree, it is NOT a debut - last year they were numbered to 55 and obviously this year they went with 56.
Kevin
This is my year! A high end auto is in the cards.

I look forward to our time together guys.



your friend
Mike

kuhlmann

Releases on Feb 16th. any one looking for hobby boxes pm me on how many you would want. as my preorder date is dec 28th.

price is 60$ a box

Lothar52

sounds good!!!!

HERE WE GO AGAIN MIKEY!!! Our RELATIVES are going to KILL US!!

loth

Lothar52

I got a willie mays auto in 2003 when i bought a case...i think my big auto pull luck ran out on that one.

Loth

helionaut

Whoever wrote the copy on the press release is obviously not a collector. I hope they have Musial cards in there like last year, with autographs. And I hope I pull one. I don't think I'll be opening as many boxes as last year (I think I did 13 retail boxes), but who knows? It may depend on how fast I can knock out 2004 Bowman Heritage.

BTW, I've still got some 2004 Topps Heritage SPs and chromes to trade if anyone needs them.

Lothar52

will retail have sp's 1 per pack?

Stone193

<< <i>will retail have sp's 1 per pack? >>


Ryan
That's a good question...the retails in 2003 didn't...so there is not quarantee. It would be nice. There would be nothing more disappointing than paying 30$ for a retail and getting no sp's, inserts, autos or anything! I don't know if I will go as wild this year since my wife will be watching much closer this year! Are you still considering getting a case?
Chris
How many boxes in a case this year? I would guess 10?

your friend
Mike

joestalin

kuhlmann.... I would be interested in a few when you get them in Feb. Thanks for the offer!

I like the retail one per pack as much as anyone, and sometimes there were even more than one
SP per pack....its kinda funny, my first retail box had a dual jersey Pujols/Musial in it and like 25
short prints.....after that I never hit anything better than a 15 dollar jersey in the 29.99 boxes. I
think the early wal mart 24 count packs had autos in them but Im fairly sure that topps ran out
of autos early into the retail printing. I wasn't happy with that. I must of opened over 1000
packs and only pulled 3 autos.

Well right now we can get hobby boxes for 60.00/24 packs or retail boxes for 72.00/24 packs. If I
don't hit an auto in the first few boxes of retail Im done...to hobby only.

I think we need to have a live group bust right here later on. We can talk when it gets closer!

Kevin

kuhlmann

Mike

The report i have is of 8 boxes a case. and these are hobby boxes.

Kevin why is retail more expensive?

TheRoach

Probably because you have to pay the retail prce of $2.99 per pack. That pricex24 packs equals $72. At least on Hobby boxes, you can get a break from dealers. That's my guess.


TheRoach

Stone193

<< <i>Probably because you have to pay the retail prce of $2.99 per pack. That pricex24 packs equals $72. At least on Hobby boxes, you can get a break from dealers. That's my guess.


TheRoach >>


Hey Roach!
I think you got it...I paid 60$ for a hobby box and the next week he was getting 85$ - it got hot real fast.
Order early...order a lot if you really like the product.
Kevin's correct on the autos! I got one auto from 2 boxes of hobby and none from a scabillion boxes of retail!!!!!!

your friend
Mike

njdolphins

Dear All

I'm not familiar with this seller but he/she seems to have been around for awhile. Is offering pre-buy on 2005 Topps Heritage for $55 per hobby box. Seems like the cheapest I've seen so far.

Ron

2005 Topps Heritage Pre Sale @ $55/Hobby Box

pandrews

<< <i>Dear All

I'm not familiar with this seller but he/she seems to have been around for awhile. Is offering pre-buy on 2005 Topps Heritage for $55 per hobby box. Seems like the cheapest I've seen so far.

Ron

2005 Topps Heritage Pre Sale @ $55/Hobby Box >>



i'd rather buy them from Kuhlman..

Stone193

NJ
Thanx for the link...the guy is legit from what I can see.
Having said that...he may be getting a better deal that Kuhlmann but let me say one thing....from past experience, if this stuff heats up right away/immediately...the guy has no loyalty to you and the only product you may see is a refund...not accusing anyone...but it has happened to me in the past...Kuhlmann will ship immediately and you are guaranteed the product even it the stuff jumps to 90$/box overnite.
I'm not a partner of Kuhlmann or anything...just know he is honest and when I order a box, it comes yesterday.
To close, this guy looks legit and everything...another thing...for a few extra bucks, I will support a fellow member here.
Just my side
Merry Christmas
your friend
Mike

pandrews

same thing Stone said..

njdolphins

Yikes. Wasn't looking to take sides. Just wanted to point out other options. I didn't realize that I could buy stuff and get a refund as my product and in the event that Khulmann didn't have an unlimited supply, I wanted to point out what looked like a bargain price.

Stone193

<< <i>Yikes. Wasn't looking to take sides. Just wanted to point out other options. I didn't realize that I could buy stuff and get a refund as my product and in the event that Khulmann didn't have an unlimited supply, I wanted to point out what looked like a bargain price. >>


NJ
Please...I didn't take this bad...I really appreciated you looking out for us...I was genuinely pointing out the value in paying a few more dollars for the quality of service and stuff. I wasn't being defensive or anything...I should have been more plain about it.
You did good! I was just talkin
Sorry for the confusion...vagueness and stuff
your friend
Mike

kuhlmann

Thanks for the support guys, this guy looks very legit. but his shipping is 9$ a box thats a bit high for one box i think. when you guys order from me it will be shipping cost with the deli confirmation. i wont make money on the shipping.

I order boxes from topps direct and 3 other dist. companies so i dont have a unlimited supply but i have options to get a lot. right now my order number is high. ill take care of all that pmed me first. if bunch leftover ill let you guys know.

joestalin

yeah, I think we have all paid more than 55 for a box of heritage, you can't put a price on getting
a box from a legit dealer. Kulmann is a great guy and even offered me free cards last year that he
probably could of made some money on. I would highly recommend him to everyone here. If
you are ever going through Atlanta stop by.

and yes there is NO discount on the retail end, they will always be 2.99 a pack, you do get a bit of
a break on the sealed 29.99 boxes but not much. I remember back in 2001 Kmart having 20%
sales...you could pick up those 20 dollar boxes for around 16...funny thing is that those boxes
today sealed would sell for over 100! I remember the toy r us packs having 6-8 low numbered
short prints in EACH PACK! Thats a minimum book value of 50 bucks in each 2.99 pack! If I had
only kept some unopened..(actually I have one pack from each 2001-2004 to go along
with my sets)

If I ever get the money Im going to go back and do a live 2001 heritage break. Anyone ever
think about trying to buy an older set that they missed?

I can't wait for the checklist...should be soon!

Kevin

pjray55

When you look at the per pack pricing retail is certainly more expensive but I was quoted $350 for a case of retail delivered which is $100 less than hobby. Befre i saw this post I was going to ask the board about their experiences with retail last year because I seemed to remember posts saying it was as good if not better than hobby.

Also, is it a stretch to think you can complete a set with an 8 box case, either retail or hobby?

Patrick

kuhlmann

i dont think you can complete it with 8 boxes. i know you couldnt last year. 350$ for retail id say jump on it if you dont care about the auto's. because the retails were loaded with sp's last year.

Stone193

<< <i>When you look at the per pack pricing retail is certainly more expensive but I was quoted $350 for a case of retail delivered which is $100 less than hobby. Befre i saw this post I was going to ask the board about their experiences with retail last year because I seemed to remember posts saying it was as good if not better than hobby.

Also, is it a stretch to think you can complete a set with an 8 box case, either retail or hobby?

Patrick >>


Patrick
For the case retail - is that 8 boxes - 24 pks/box? That's hard to believe, that would only be about $1.80 a pack! With a retail of 3$ - it just doesn't seem correct. The hobby box at 60$ from Kuhlmann - if the same as previous years would have 24 pks/box or 2.50/pk and the retail at Target last year was 3$ a pack and the blister boxes were 30$ with 10/1bonus or 11 pks which is $2.70 per pack. That seems like real close to their cost.
Might be worth inquiring and also, as I said before, a lot of times these guys take your money and play with it and then tell you the truck was hijacked by martians and try to get you to buy crap or take 3 months to return your money....or something like that.

don't mean to rain on you white Christmas...
your friend
Mike

Lothar52

kuhlmann is a stinking cowboy fan who payed Roy Williams a great sum of money to take out T.O. ....GO EAGLES!!!!....that said...I love the guy and think his prices are 100% fair. When he says he will ship at cost he means it...these other yum yum's are going to gouge you every step of the way. My money is with kuhlmann (and the local walmart for a few retail boxes for craps and giggles)

loth

kuhlmann

Ok guys im sold out. those that pmed me i will have the info next week.

pandrews

i'm ready to bust some packs!

Jeremy1901

<< <i>

I can't wait for the checklist...should be soon!

Kevin >>




http://www.anythingu.com/images/TOBH05.htmHere tis

BigKidAtHeart

NEW This year! - CUT SIGNATURES!

1956-DE Dwight Eisenhower
1956-EW Earl Warren
1956-ERI Eddie Rickenbacker
1956-ER Eleanor Roosevelt
1956-JH J. Edgar Hoover
1956-JSA Jonas Salk
1956-RN Richard Nixon

joestalin

Much thanks for the checklist, it tells a lot...topps wasn't ready to put Bonds into the set, they stuck
him in at the last second. He mirrors Moose Skowran's card in the 56 set which isn't saying much....
perhaps topps though two guys who had wrists the size of legs should be together. Arod gets
Mantle's number and some same team guys share too...Smoltz/Spahn....Ishii/Koufax. Topps is
starting to put the foreign players in the mainstream too...Livan Hernandez? Irod? Two guys
who have been not heard from in topps products. Mulder gets the boot in the chrome set to
make room for Bonds, if topps had kept the order that meant Griffey would of got the boot...not
acceptable I guess.

The base auto checklist looks weak, there are a few good ones but 85% will be in the base 40.00
range. Topps opted to keep it all retired players unlike the first two sets....Im sure this was a money
thing..I would of loved an Arod or Bonds card....darn it. It looks like like the beef is in the long odds
cards..auto GU..not a weak one on the list.

How far will topps take the parallel between the 56 set? Will the Pujols card have a small picture
of Barry Bonds on it? Two variations of the team cards? Short printed checklist?? LOL

...and then there are the backs of the cards!

JS

Stone193

<< <i>Will the Pujols card have a small picture
of Barry Bonds on it? >>


Kevin
Does Bonds slide?

Gemmy10

<<I would LOVE
to see Bonds and Arod on the auto checklist too.>>

JS, I thought you hate Bonds?