New (maybe) ebay scam...
coinlieutenant
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I know it is a scam...I just dont know if it is new.
I bid last week on this 1875-CC and was the underbidder.
Today I received an email offering a second chance offer. The thing is that the offer didnt come from the seller, since I know the seller. My dad drove all the way to Kansas to look at these coins. Unfortunately, we were shut out of a crazy bidding war on ebay.
I digress.
I played dumb and responded to the email and got a pretty obvious scam back. Just thought I would let everyone know.
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This is a second chance offer.
The winner of the auction ( the initial buyer ) didn't complete the transaction so now you have the chance to buy the item at your bid price.
Since this is a second chance offer i must pay for all the shipping costs.
I will ship the item via U.P.S Services Air Express and you will receive the package in 48 hours.
You will have 7 days to inspect the item and if you will not be satisfied or the item won't be exactly as described i will give you a full refund within 24 hours ( eBay will guarantee for that because i have a US$ 20,000.00 deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account ).
So if you are interested in my proposal i must ask you to e-mail me as soon as posible with your full and CORRECT name and address so i can prepare the shipping and start a secure transaction with eBay.
eBay will let you know all you have to do as so on as we start this transaction.
Thank you for your time and waiting to hear back from you ASAP !
Best Regards
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The initial email resembled something like this...
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Dear coinlt,
You expressed interest in an item titled "1875 CC PCGS MS-60 Double Eagle $20 Gold"-Item# 3944107030 by bidding,however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder.In compliance with eBay policy, this seller is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $4,000.00.The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction or this seller has duplicate items for sale or the reserve price is not met in a Reserve Price.If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection.This is an eBay protected transaction and you can pay with trust.To learn more about Second Chance Offer go to: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/personal_offer.html To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at andycoison1@AOL.com. Thank you, eBay, Inc.
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tancredo_ton13
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I bid last week on this 1875-CC and was the underbidder.
Today I received an email offering a second chance offer. The thing is that the offer didnt come from the seller, since I know the seller. My dad drove all the way to Kansas to look at these coins. Unfortunately, we were shut out of a crazy bidding war on ebay.
I digress.
I played dumb and responded to the email and got a pretty obvious scam back. Just thought I would let everyone know.
############################################################################################################
This is a second chance offer.
The winner of the auction ( the initial buyer ) didn't complete the transaction so now you have the chance to buy the item at your bid price.
Since this is a second chance offer i must pay for all the shipping costs.
I will ship the item via U.P.S Services Air Express and you will receive the package in 48 hours.
You will have 7 days to inspect the item and if you will not be satisfied or the item won't be exactly as described i will give you a full refund within 24 hours ( eBay will guarantee for that because i have a US$ 20,000.00 deposit in an eBay managed purchase protection account ).
So if you are interested in my proposal i must ask you to e-mail me as soon as posible with your full and CORRECT name and address so i can prepare the shipping and start a secure transaction with eBay.
eBay will let you know all you have to do as so on as we start this transaction.
Thank you for your time and waiting to hear back from you ASAP !
Best Regards
#############################################################################################################
The initial email resembled something like this...
****************************************************************************************************************************************
Please do not reply to this email as you will not receive a response. This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system.
Message From eBay Member
Marketplace Safety Tip
If this email is an offer to sell an item without winning it on the eBay Web site (including "second chance offers" sent through this email system) please do not respond to the sender.
These "off-eBay" transactions are unsafe and not covered by eBay purchase protection programs.
Never pay for your eBay item using instant cash transfer services such as Western Union or MoneyGram.
These payment methods are unsafe when paying someone you do not know.
If this email is inappropriate or violates ebay policy, please help protect other eBay community members by reporting it to us immediately.
Dear coinlt,
You expressed interest in an item titled "1875 CC PCGS MS-60 Double Eagle $20 Gold"-Item# 3944107030 by bidding,however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder.In compliance with eBay policy, this seller is making this Second Chance Offer to you at your bid price of US $4,000.00.The seller has issued this Second Chance Offer because either the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction or this seller has duplicate items for sale or the reserve price is not met in a Reserve Price.If you accept this offer, you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection.This is an eBay protected transaction and you can pay with trust.To learn more about Second Chance Offer go to: http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/personal_offer.html To purchase this item, don't reply to this mail, just contact the seller at andycoison1@AOL.com. Thank you, eBay, Inc.
Please respond to the question on eBay by clicking the button below.
Thank you,
tancredo_ton13
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Actually, I have received legitimate second chance offers before. It looks like it might be a nice coin. Perhaps you could contact the seller, exchange references, and make the transaction outside ebay.
Russ, NCNE
Amazing how ebay does nothing about these.
I know the seller, talked to him this morning, the coins are in the mail to the guy that outbid me on all three...
siliconvalleycoins.com
<< <i>It is a scam, and it's not new. Been making the rounds for a few months now.
Russ, NCNE >>
Jeez, you're actually right for a change!
Remember, "it's a legitimate estate sale"--the biggest attempted scam in ebay history!!!
The strange ones are unsolicited offers from third parties... hey, I saw you wanted a pop 2 coin and bid $1000 for it... I just so happen to have the other one and will sell it to you for $1100 if you want it. You interested? I tend to report those.
And I just noticed your line about it coming from a third party... report it.
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Even if it was legit, since ferminadaza only bid $2,915, you should have only had to pay $3000 for the coin not $4000.
Any second chance offers I receive are deleted immediately. A shill comes in and outbids you, now the seller knows your high bid & offers it to you for that bid!
Homey don't play that game.
Glenn
<< <i>They just convicted a guy here in D.C. after he sold the same car for the 5th time for cash/cashiers check. Used duplicate Va. titles. The last sale was in the F.B.I. parking lot (talk about dumb) !!!! >>
My kind of criminal! Easily convictable!
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<< <i>Obviously a scam, just didnt know if it was new or not.
Amazing how ebay does nothing about these.
I know the seller, talked to him this morning, the coins are in the mail to the guy that outbid me on all three...
U really think FleaBay cares about u or anything but making $?????
Thank You
SilverDollar