Multi Hit Coin?

fcloud

This coin has been hit many times the obverse (shown) has hits that don't show up in the image very well. The area that shows the most shifts are in "LIBERTY" the date and In God We Trust also show multiple hits. The portrait has lines around it from being hit over and over. It looks like a piece of the wire rim (caused by the multiple hits) dropped and there is a strike though above the date. The reverse doesn't show as well as the obverse. The date and mint mark have a former shadow of them selves completly flattened.

My guess is it has been hit a minimun of four times.

jonathanb

Machine doubling, sorry.

fcloud

jonathanb,

The coin may look like Machine Doubling in the images, but the coin was struck numberous times.

Look closely at the date and mint mark. You will see a shadow where it has been flattened out.

Look at the T and Y in "LIBERTY" and you can pick up three distinct shifted letters. I know it is not a die issues, but a striking issue. This coin was somehow stuck in the press and was hit over and over again.

Shamika

I agree. That does NOT look like machine doubling.

tsacch

Def not machine doubling.........send her to Anacs, let them sort it out.

nice coin by the way....circ find?

errormaven

It doesn't look like machine doubling, but it also doesn't look like a multiple strike. I have not seen doubling like this before.

The spacing of the shadow date and mintmark does not seem to match the spacing seen in the other peripheral design elements. The shadows might represent "surface film transfer", which occurs when a dirty, greasy die strikes a coin twice, or when a greasy planchet is struck twice, and then a new planchet is struck afterward. But surface film transfer does not explain the other doubling we're seeing.

Are you at all interested in selling it? I have an abiding interest in unusual forms of doubling.

By the way, I seem to see a double forehead for Roosevelt, which is something I don't think you mentioned.

-- Mike Diamond

errormaven

Right now, I'd say that it's most likely a combination of surface film transfer (what Ken Potter calls "contaminated die doubling") and rather odd-looking strike doubling (machine doubling). I detect some degree of shelving on some of the letters of LIBERTY, which is consistent with strike doubling.

Surface film transfer is very rare. I only have one example in my collection, and I've only seen one other.

I did write an article some years back in Errorscope on the subject of "stutter strikes". These are coins that show nicely separated, raised design elements that are caused by a single strike. I identified at least three possible causes. The category "stutter strike" functions mostly as a wastebasket for dramatic forms of doubling that clearly don't fall into the "strike doubling" or "die deterioration doubling" categories.

-- Mike Diamond

So maybe it's a "stutter strike".

fcloud

Yes, you see Roosevelt's image more than once. The coin is very deep from being hammered more than once. The reverse is also doubled. And, yes I did find the coin in change.

Thanks for the info.

errormaven

I'm pretty sure it was struck only once. Areas that represent the alleged first strike on LIBERTY are not flattened, although they are lower than the rest of the letter. You don't see the incomplete, but sharp penetration of the first strike through the second that is characteristic of a true double strike. The ostensible second strike has produced letters that are abnormally thin. A true double strike would not show this pattern.

So I'd still go with a wierd form of strike doubling or some kind of "stutter strike". Along with surface film transfer in the SE quadrant. Of course, you have the coin in front of you and I don't. And you are certainly entitled to have a different opinion.

Rampage

My guess is double struck in collar. Neat looking coin.