How many of these will cross at the same grade or 1 lower ?

100proof1957

Sent these in for cross over.

How many will cross at Minimum PR67 CAM ?

(the cent didnt go because i just bought it,his brother the 67 Cam went)

Link O Rama

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ddbird

Nice set you put together. Hard to tell from pics, but most should be fine. I would have kept the dime in NGC though, its pretty difficult to pull a star on a coin without toning. Good luck!

100proof1957

DD,

That Roosie is being replaced with a 69 CAM that i ripped on teletrade.

So now i have a dillema !

I have at PCGS the set for x, 67 CAM cent and the balance are 68 CAMS,cept the Roosie with the star.

I have the 68 CAM Linky in hand and the 69 CAM Roosie is on the way here.

If they all x @ 67 @ PCGS,thats about number 7 on the registry set ranks.

I then either sell my NGC stuff,or build another registry set for NGC,knowing that i cant afford to be better than number 4,finding dem coins in 69 CAM is way outta my league !
Sure i could try to MUSS them (thats a term i just made up ! Marty/Russ make coins all the time) but i could spend the rest of my life looking through 57 proof sets and not make a 69 CAM !

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coinguy1

Hairlines (or lack thereof) on Proof coins, usually account for the differences in grade. And, because such hairlines are hardly ever apparent, in even the best on line images, there is absolutely NO WAY for anyone to be able to give you a realistic assessment regarding cross-over possibilities.

I know that's not a fun answer to read, but it is the truth.

100proof1957

Mark,

No problem.
Thats a fine candid answer !

I did send them for x at minimum 67 CAM,so either way i dont get killed !

They probably will never be sold but i wanted the perceived value of the PCGS plastic value just in case !

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Taiyo

I have a 57 with full bell lines very good (not appraised) strike no where what my 59 obverse is.

100proof1957

all proof Frankies are assumed to have FBL

SanctionII

I have no idea how many will cross to PCGS at PR67 CAM. I hope that they all cross at 67 CAM or better.
Now that you have a camera, start posting pics of your set so we can all drool. I hope to get a camera from Santa so I can join the fun.

I like birth year sets. Mine birth year set is 1956. The half has been fairly easy to find in CAMDCAM. I also found a cent, nickel and dime that are pretty nice. The quarter is eluding me so far.

I got lucky last month at Santa Clara and picked up 3 raw 1957 CAMDCAM halves for modest money. I had been looking for a 1957 half for years and never found one that has "the look". Then out of the blue I find three. Go figure.

Shamika

How is it that the nickel is cameo???

100proof1957

Shamika,

Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with !

the 50's Jeffs are mothers,if it looks like a cam to you,its likely gonna grade DCAM.

Buy a 1964 jeff in PCGS 68 cam on fleabay and tell me you would pick it raw as a cam.

100proof1957

Sanction,

Click the link and have a peek !

100proof1957

Sanction,

I pity you !

1956 Birth year Proof set is gonna have 2 Frankies to do it right,type's 1 and 2 !

56 type 1 CAMEO,best of luck !

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SanctionII

100Proof1957, I have a Type 1 1956 proof frankie. Picked it up raw without even knowing what it was. Only after owning it for a while and educating myself did I realize it was a Type 1. It is brilliant, not even a hint of frosted devices anywhere on the coin. I am looking for a Type 1 CAM.

If only my mother had gottne preganant with me 8 weeks earlier, I would have been a double nickel baby and would not have to worry about finding a 1956 Type 1 CAM to complete my birth year set.

100proof1957

i have 4 Type 1's at PCGS right now !
thats 1 percent of the known pops in all grades.

Good luck on that CAM !

JrGMan2004

If I was JUST judging by your pictures, I would think almost none of those coins would hit even close to CAM...

100proof1957

George,

That was harsh !

relayer

The dime is probably a lock @68CAM

JrGMan2004

<< <i>George,

That was harsh ! >>

Your point? Your pictures, IMHO, suck, and don't convey the cameo contrast that is probally there, since NGC graded them CAM...

melikecoins

The dime and maybe the half.


Glen

100proof1957

Must admit my photo skills are lacking !

JrGMan2004

<< <i>Must admit my photo skills are lacking ! >>

That's what I said... take some time and work on your photographic skills before you ask for more opinions on your coins, especially grading opinions, because to even be closely accurate, you need to have some pretty decent pics...

100proof1957

Well i would take some more pix,but the coins are at HRH's !

JrGMan2004

Bad Excuse... how long were they in your possession before that? And you could take any other Contrasted proof coins you have at home and practice on those coins

Russ

<< <i>Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with ! >>





Russ, NCNE

JrGMan2004

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<< <i>Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with ! >>





Russ, NCNE >>

An example who has perfected his technique (Though he has some physical problems like shadows from his camera )... Russ has shared his set-up and how he takes his pictures before... search the forums, you will learn much...

Russ

<< <i>Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with ! >>





Russ, NCNE

Russ

<< <i>Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with ! >>





Russ, NCNE

Russ

<< <i>Very hard to show contrast on a JEFF,they dont have much to begin with ! >>





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Russ

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JrGMan2004

Oh Russ, show em one in a slab too, just so he can't say, "Well, it's easier to photograph raw coins."

Russ

<< <i>Oh Russ, show em one in a slab too, just so he can't say, "Well, it's easier to photograph raw coins." >>

















Russ, NCNE

JrGMan2004

Thx Russ Are those CAMs or DCAMs? The SMS coins kinda look like they have a little too much luster in the fields to be DCAM...

Russ

<< <i>Are those CAMs or DCAMs? >>



The graded coins are all cams except one.

Russ, NCNE

100proof1957

Russ,

Now show us a 1957 Cameo ! in say 67 or 68

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Russ

<< <i>Now show us a 1957 Cameo ! in say 67 or 68 >>



A cameo is a cameo. Year is irrelevant.

Russ, NCNE

LeeG

Great Picks. Proof there just trying to get you riled up, and your letting em. Relax and enjoy the show! If anyone has any leftovers, 57's, I'm interested! Lee

JrGMan2004

<< <i> Great Picks. Proof there just trying to get you riled up, and your letting em. Relax and enjoy the show! If anyone has any leftovers, 57's, I'm interested! Lee >>

No, that's just Russ... I'm being honest... 100Proof1957, if you're gonna ask for opinions, don't expect that everyone is going to sugarcoat their replies like Mark... expect harsh answers, and take them in stride... sometimes you need a brutally honest answer to open your eyes...

RGL

Good luck, in particular, on your Jeff ... PCGS has been a bear lately in handing out CAM/DCAMs on deserving Jeffs. You, unfortunately, have the toughest birth year for finding a CAM Jeff. At 41/11 at PR-67 CAM at PCGS, the 1957 is the lowest pop post-1950 Jeff proof in CAM. I, luckily, scored a raw one that went PR-67 CAM. Here is the pix ...

LeeG

RGL. "SWEET"!!!! Lee JrG, I'm with you. Got to take the good with the bad some times. Live and Learn! Lee

100proof1957

I Guess what i should have said was.

Whats chances of these crossing, and not linked my crappy photos !

Russ has great photo skills,we know that.

I also stated about a week ago that i was gonna send Russ all my coins for photos from now on !

We also know the mid to late 60's and 70's coins are much easier to find in CAMS,1957 is nearly the toughest of them all for Jeffs and Linkys.

I see no point in Flaming me because my photo skills and equipment are lacking,im still learning.

Only been back to playing coins for about 8 months and my world doesnt revolve around them,just trying to put together some nice stuff to give my kid when he can appreciate them.

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100proof1957

Russ,
in this case you full are of it !

Any of those coins you posted,were they a 1957 would be DCAM all day long.

No question !

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SanctionII

I enjoy the repartee that bounces around on the forums. Always a good place to learn things.

What I really like however, is the pictures of coins that are posted, including CAM and DCAM coins. I never get tired looking at pre 1971 cameo coins. It never ceases to amaze me how clever and talented human beings can be at creating things, including works of art that bear the moniker of "coin".

JrGMan2004

Proof: I wasn't trying to bash you or your coins... but, I was being honest... you asked for an opinion, I gave it... maybe I went a little far... but if it gets you to improve your photography skills, great!! You have some nice coins (I like your icon coin! That Obv is DCAM all day long!!) but you're pictures don't even come close to showing their true state...

100proof1957

George,

The icon coin is a total Moose (the obverse anyway) thats the 68 CAM star coin.

The new camera has many more features and is harder to use,a good copy stand with some lighting would be most helpful.

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JrGMan2004

<< <i>George,

The icon coin is a total Moose (the obverse anyway) thats the 68 CAM star coin.

The new camera has many more features and is harder to use,a good copy stand with some lighting would be most helpful.

Proof >>

Definitly... even Jeremy and Mark, two of the best Coin Photographers on these boards, couldn't take pictures nearly as nice as their's are without their set-ups...

Russ

<< <i>Russ,
in this case you full are of it !

Any of those coins you posted,were they a 1957 would be DCAM all day long. >>



I wish PCGS agreed with you. One of them didn't even grade cameo.

Russ, NCNE