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I don't have any CC coins, opinions wanted on which is a good one to aquire...

Type, reason and cost would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
Ray

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    What do you want to spend? What do you like? Gold or silver? Slabbed or not? Toned or not? What are you trying to accomplish?

    Tom
  • I was just looking at an article in Nov Coins magazine which had a list of the least expensive CC mint coins:

    1875-CC dime (Seated Liberty)
    1875-CC twenty cents (Seated Liberty)
    1876-CC quarter (Seated Liberty)
    1877-CC half (Seated Liberty)
    1875-CC dollar (Trade)
    1882-CC dollar (Morgan)
    1891-CC $5 (Coronet)
    1891-CC $10 (Coronet)
    1875-CC $20 (Liberty Head)

    Jeff
    Jeff

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  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you want to spend? What do you like? Gold or silver? Slabbed or not? Toned or not? What are you trying to accomplish?

    Tom >>



    Great questions Tom, let's take them in your order...

    How much? Well, I've been saving for 4 months now image and my total amassed coin fund is a mear 200 dollars, I have no problem waiting longer, saving until I have enough to buy the coin I like. I need to start buying quality over quantity, the fact is, I'm in the military and they like to ship us boys around every now and again and I'm due to move soon. There is absolutely no security when company XYZ moves our stuff. They box it however they want, write down whats in every box and then we hope it makes it to the next house, if not, a claim is put in and as far as I know, the company makes off with all the goods image

    What do I like? Well, I haven't met a coin I didn't like, I am VERY interested in a Type set, figuring I can not afford and single set alone in any sort of good grade, I figured saving up and making a nice type set would be the best way to go. (Opinions appreciated here)

    Gold or Silver? Well, I like silver but who doesn't love gold, truth is, I have very little gold and would like to expand the collection in this area. I was hoping my first CC coin would be a Gold one. (But am flexible here)

    Slabbed or Raw, well, due to my lack of knowledge I tend to go for the slabbed, there are many reasons but fear of fake coins is the biggest. Storage, protection, moving them is all factors, I would buy raw from a reputable dealer for sure, but most of my coins come from Ebay.

    Toned or Not? Well, I have a few toned coins, I would like only Natural tone of course, but don't mind non toned coins, either way, it's the coins history toned or not that I am interested in.

    As for what i am trying to accomplish? Well, as stated on a limited budget I'm interested in more quality coins in my/our (Wife daughter and I) collections. I have many low quality coins that I fully enjoy (I don't resell many coins, less than 10 in my whole life) but anyone who tells you they collect coins without investment at least part of the equation is in my opinion not telling the full truth. I'm not looking to gain money in the collections, I am hoping to pass along a nice worthy coin collection to my daughter when she is old enough to properly take care of them (She's 8 now) and hopefully someday have a notable collection in the numismatic society, something of a family heirloom if you will. It all has to start somewhere and why not with my generation.

    Please feel free to ask any more questions,
    Ray
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was just looking at an article in Nov Coins magazine which had a list of the least expensive CC mint coins:

    1875-CC dime (Seated Liberty)
    1875-CC twenty cents (Seated Liberty)
    1876-CC quarter (Seated Liberty)
    1877-CC half (Seated Liberty)
    1875-CC dollar (Trade)
    1882-CC dollar (Morgan)
    1891-CC $5 (Coronet)
    1891-CC $10 (Coronet)
    1875-CC $20 (Liberty Head)

    Jeff >>



    Wow Jeff, thanks for the list, it gives me something to start researching.

    Thanks,
    Ray
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Anyone else?

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  • Do a search on Teletrade and see what fits the wallett for starters.

    I think i could dig a 91 CC double eagle,but i doubt i can afford one !
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think if you want to spend $200 on a coin, you could probably get a nice 1884-CC $1 MS-64 in the GSA holder and graded by NGC.

    If you want to save a little more, you could probably get an 1891-CC $5 in AU-55 for $350.

    By the way, I really like the idea of the 10-coin silver/gold Carson City type set. image
  • I recommend a GSA Morgan dollar for a starter--an affordable mint state coin with a history!
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only have one...1875-CC twenty cents (Seated Liberty). Makes for an interesting conversation piece for non-coin people plus I'm not really a morgan kinda guy. I also like the whole odd denomination thing image You can pick one up in low circulated grade for your 200, with that perfect gunky look to it. Mine was 135$
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    On a fairly limited budget, how about a miniature CC silver denomination set? With this, you can have a nice little set with a CC-mint coin in each of the five silver denominations they were minted in (10c, 20c, 25c, 50c, $1). Here's an example with all different dates with approximate costs in Good/Fine/XF/AU:

    1876-CC Dime: $15/$25/$50/$100
    1875-CC Twenty Cents: $100/$250/$400/$500
    1878-CC Quarter: $25/$60/$150/$220
    1877-CC Half Dollar: $25/$60/$130/$230
    1882/3/4-CC Silver Dollar: $60/$80/$100/$125

    Total cost with G/F/EF/AU dime through dollar: $225/$475/$830/$1,175.

    You can upgrade to an MS-63 1882/83/84-CC dollar fairly easily; it will cost about $200 for a decent certified example. And if you'd like to really complete this set, you can also throw in an 1874-CC Trade Dollar (another different date!) for another $100/$175/$275/$400.

    Actually, having never even thought about this until now, I rather like this idea. I may have to do it myself! image
  • 1875 CC twenty cent piece. Reason: They are not that expensive, and if you want a twenty-cent piece in your collection, it might as well be a CC


    Jerry
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MrPaseo: Here's an example of how beautiful a reasonably priced CC Morgan Dollar can be. 1884-CC PCGS MS-62 DMPL (Cameo) on E-Bay These auction photos are pretty revealing and informative.

    I am in no way associated with either the seller or the coin, I just happened to find it while scanning through Morgan Dollars for sale on E-Bay and thought that this might be helpful for you, in answer to your question posed in this thread.

    I would personally recommend either the 1883-CC or the 1884-CC in PCGS MS-64 PL grade, because there is less of a market premium associated with the PL designation vs. the DMPL designation. If you can find an 1882-CC for around the same price, that would be an even better opportunity.

    Have fun with your search!

    Stuart

    Collect 18th & 19th Century US Type Coins, Silver Dollars, $20 Gold Double Eagles and World Crowns & Talers with High Eye Appeal

    "Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity"
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Common date dime in VF...you can speculate whether Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp, od Jesse James carried it in his pocket!
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PM sent!

    Tbig
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Ray,

    A nice CC dollar in 65 isn't far away from where you are at financially and well worth saving a little more and getting one. Personally I would advise staying away from the off grades such as 61, 62.

    Rgrds
    Tom
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Thank you all very much, great opinions here, I'll be doing alot of research and taking all ideas and help in the purchase of this coin. I do believe it will be a few more months until i can swing what I want though, hope to see you all here.

    Thanks,
    Ray
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    Thread Title: I don't have any CC coins, opinions wanted on which is a good one to aquire...
    Created On Sunday December 12, 2004 8:46 AM


    Type, reason and cost would be greatly appriciated.

    Thanks,
    Ray

    type********************************************

    1878-cc quarter struck from a cancelled obverse die in choice almost unc. to really choice++ uncirculated condition and wildly toned


    reason********************************

    the ultimate cc coin

    one of the few usa coins struck and released with a cancelled obverse die

    if wildly toned.... this is rare for any gem seated mintstate coin let alone a cc mint!!!!!!!!!!! and to get this on a cancelled obverse die coin released into circulation well a truly rare occurance ............. the highest magnitude and degree of rarity

    last date of the seated quarters minted in carson city and one of the rarer most TOTALLY SLEEPER UNDERVALUED cc mint coinage


    one of the most interesting die characteristics on ANY UNITED STATES COIN!!!!!!

    *THE*MOST*EXTREME*DIE*VARIETY*ON*ANY*U.S.*COIN*

    a coin with huge historical potential and totally bargain priced in this current market

    a coin with a fundumential reason to rise in value


    cost*******************


    $750 to $3000

    michael








  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    one of the better threads on here as of late

    michael
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    one of the few usa coins struck and released with a cancelled obverse die

    The 1884-CC $10 was also struck with a cancelled die.
  • I have one each of each type. Cost me a pretty penny even in lower grades...Good luck to you.
  • NumismanicNumismanic Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭
    1878-CC Morgan in MS63 is a nice coin. First year of type and very popular. You can pick one up around the $300 range.

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  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    For $200 I'd recommend getting a GSA holdered Morgan dollar (Perhaps graded by NGC, even) with the original box and certificate in good condition.

    Cheers,
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    the 1884-cc ten dollar gold is highly suspect and a long shot possibility and in my opinion it is not struck from a cancelled obverse die as per the below

    the 1878-cc quarter has the cancelled mark hit with a chisel and as with all cc cancelled dies they did an X right in the middle of the die like this 1878-cc it has the chisel mark at a slate like one part of an X mark and it is clearly seen by the naked eye it also has rust pits all over miss liberty suggestive of an out of service not olied properly stored die that was sitting unused for cancellation at the end of the year

    the marks on the 1878-cc are clear and no brainer whereas the 1884-cc ten dollar they are not that easy to see and sit as a pair pf parallel lines at the base of the neck these lines where caused by a die finishing process at the cc mint and this is seen on some other dates of ten dollar gold most all 1884-cc are seen with this die affect if it was a cancelled die like the 1878-cc it would have been used most likely as a last resort as was the 1878-cc cancelled die and would be rusty somewhat as it sits in the cancellation discard room of the mint and not carefully preserved in oil cloth like other unused abet still in service at a later date dies

    also the 1878-cc is actually rare in choice unc and only a handful exist where as the 1884-cc ten moat of the mintage struck for the year exhibit this these die lines and three obverse dies where used for the 1878-cc and only the last month was this calcelled die used at the carson city mint

    and agauin usually cancelled dies are an X in the middle of the coin just like the mark on the 1878-cc not parallel die lines in the base of the neck and found on most all 1884-cc tens


    but everyone has their opinions

    walter breen lists the 1884-cc as a normal die variety and the 1878-cc quarter as a cancelled die in his encyc

    and based on the above information i agree with him

    also i was talking to randy goe last week and he said to me that the 1884-cc ten is nowhere as near as a true clear cancellation as the 1878-cc quarter die

    the 1884-cc is highly suspect but is a long shot possibility


    michael

  • Ray, I was looking at what Heritage has for CC Morgans and see that they have a slew of 1878-CC MS 62s at $265 each. It's a CC and it's the first year of the Morgan. I don't know if that is a good price or not these days because the prices seem to keep going up as the months go by.

    Heritage 1878-CCs

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