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So, I go to one of our normally lousy, lame, crappy waste of time shows today...

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
And, actually found something for a change! Normally, the dealers around here either have no proof sets or sets that have my fingerprints from the last 10 shows they hauled them to. Today, there was a new guy! With a boatload of proof sets! Apparently they're from his better half's dad's stash. He also had a run of 1950's mint sets - all original. Unfortunately, no proof sets from 1964 to 1970, though.

He was nice enough to let me go through the sets. Quite a few cameo dimes, and a couple cameo quarters, but not much in the half dollar department - until I got to the 1956 sets. He had 10, and every set had a one-sided cameo Frankie except one. BUT, this coin was covered in haze. Even beneath the haze I could see it was a nice two sider, but I wasn't sure how embedded the haze was. So, I negotiated down to $36, (my final offer of $35, plus the $1 the guy tacked on so he could win the negotiation).

Post dip, the coin looks rather nice:

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Even Frankies look good when they're cameos!!!!!!!

Russ, NCNE

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    And that's why you have to keep going to the shows! Nice grab and how gracious of you to let the guy win the last dollar. image

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Let us know how it grades.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Very nice...
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    Pretty Franklin. image
    Wayne
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  • Not Modern Crap !
    Were it only a type one !
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Were it only a type one ! >>



    Marty counted the toes. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Man, that's nce contrast.
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Now, if it was a type 1, and had some awesome golden toning around the rims.... then you'd have something!! image
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  • Nice, and the little Eagle on the reverse really stands out. No one ever seems to pay much attention to Frankie's little pet bird on the reverse.
  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    image I'm still in search of that perfect "57"image Nice pick up!!!!! Lee
  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ
    I have the same problem here. Same dealers at the same old shows. But I keep going. Why? Because you never know when a new dealer will show up or one of your regular dealers does some big deal on proof sets.

    Earlier this year, I had the same experience. One of the dealers had about 400 fresh 1956-64 proof sets and was willing to let me cherrypick. I found two dozen or so wonderful sets containing some great cameos and a couple of 56 type 2 franklins. He charged me between bid and ask, but I was not complaining. The first of these cameos are on their way to PCGS now. We shall see...
    Cameonut

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  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Russ,

    What's your dipping process for haze removal on silver proof coins?
  • Very nice pickup!
  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ, great pick up. I know you are big on Silver Cameo Kennedies, but CAM/DCAM Frankies are drop dead gorgeous.

    The 1956 you pictured looks like a couple of 1956 Type II's that I have stumbled across and picked up.

    Even better, it also looks like the three raw 1957's that I found and picked up on the cheap at the November Santa Clara show. I am holding one of the 1957's in my hand as I type this and have held it up next to your pictured 1956. They look so much alike they could be twins with one popping out of the coining press at 11:59:59 p.m. on 12-31-1956 and the other popping out of the coining press at 12:00:00 a.m. on 1-1-1957.
  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    Nice grab, yes, what is your dipping process?
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice grab, yes, what is your dipping process? >>



    Not remember Russ is very cheap!

    He hold the coin over the toilet and pees on it!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    So its the uric acid that etches the coin on the high spots that creates that cameo.....uh huh, I see...I see..............off to the fridge, I have several Molsen beers left ......maybe I can turn a hazy proof Kennedy into a nice cameo by peeing on it.......

    One question......do I wipe front to back or back to front when I am done?
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet cameo!!
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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    ~Wayne
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Super coin Russ! Tell me more about those mint sets. image mike
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you buy the whole set for $36 of just the 50c? Bid on the set is $53.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looking at 1956 Proof Sets you should expect to find Type 2 Cameo's and it's probably the easiest to make in grades through 67CAM, even in DCAM they're relatively common compared to other dates. i would hope you'd be looking for Type 1's as well, a CAM/DCAM there would be a treat and worth mentioning.

    al h.image
  • Russ, very nice Frankie Proof. I wouldn't think about what type it is. That'd be like looking a gift horse in the mouth.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    I'd say this calls for a "YOU SUCK".

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you buy the whole set for $36 of just the 50c? Bid on the set is $53. >>



    Yes, $36 for the set. I started at $27. After all, the half was covered in crud. I told the guy flat-out that I thought it might be a cameo, but that if the haze was embedded the coin didn't have much value. Greysheet prices assume sets with coins in decent condition, and all the coins in this set were hazed. The others spent quite nicely at the grocery store, though. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ: That's a beautiful 1956 Franklin -- and my birthyear too... image

    Congratulations on snagging a very pretty Frankie!! image

    Stuart

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Let us know how it grades. >>



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    Russ, NCNE
  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
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    Developing theory is what we are meant to do as academic researchers
    and it sets us apart from practitioners and consultants. Gregor
  • That's nice Russ! Much better than the crap from that Chicago feller lately!image
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Scoring an ultra cam is pretty cool...... image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • Nice score Russ. You sure have a good keen eye.

    Way to goimage
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Jesse James without a gun ! >>



    If I'm Jesse James, than Marty is the entire Hole In The Wall Gang!

    Russ, NCNE
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    A beauty...thanks for sharing with us, Russ.image
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    "SWEET" Congrat's Russ on a super coin!!!!!!!!! Lee
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Holy frosted devices batman!
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭
    OK, I'll say it, yeah it's a nice coin, and this thread is 100% excellent.

    There, ya happy?image

    Joe








    (it's still a Frankie, Russ.)
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  • DAYUM!!! NCS? Or home dip?
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Me like alot, what's it current market value?
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Home dip, of course.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Home dip, of course. >>



    Correct.



    << <i>what's it current market value? >>



    Not huge; $250 or so.

    Russ, NCNE

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $250.00 market value for us schlumbs, what do you think R&I Coins would list it and sell it for?

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