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Yanks making me scratch my head again!

80sToyguy80sToyguy Posts: 383
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O.K, so the report is the Yanks are going to give Pavana $42 mil over 4 years yet they're willing to let Javy go in the Johnson trade? What sense does this make at all! I consider myself one of the biggest Expos fans' on this entire board, and I can tell all you Yankee fans that Javy is head and shoulders a MUCH better pitcher than Pavano--by this time next year they'll be trying to move Pavano to another team for another pitcher--maybe Roger Clemens? Unfortunately his 9-10 record and 4.71 ERA (projected for next year) aren't going to help his cause--he's had 1 good year for God's sake!!!
I just don't get it.
Jay

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  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭

    I disagree with you. I think Pavano is an up and coming pithcer. As far as Vasquez I think that the Yankees should not give up on a young pitcher. Vasquez had a very good first half of the season and then fell apart in the second half and the playoffs. If the Yankees keep him I hope that he is not one of these pitchers who can not pitch under pressure in NY.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Pavano is a much better option than Vasquez. Obviously, I hope he does not go against his first comments and sign with New York. Now that the Sox signed Wells, I feel that may be the case.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    I hope the rumors of a three way trade with the White Sox are untrue. I don't want Vasquez and the Yankees are now paying the piper for trading what minor league talent they had. George is going to have to be in the free agent market for a long long time.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    << hope he does not go against his first comments>>

    What did Pavano say?

    He may just be using the Yankees to sign with his boyhood favorite team.
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    Signing Pavano is a good thing if they can pull it off, but I think the BOSOX with get him. Trading Javy for Johnson is a wash since the Yankees need a better balanced rotation and not just one staff ace. They need to add pitchers, not switch them. They need both Javy and Johnson.

    I am only worried that Javy might not be able to pitch in pressure cooker NY. Kenny Rogers could not do it even though he is a great pitcher.

    BoSox got Wells? WOW, I never thought that would happen. What is boomer thinking? He really loved the Yankees and they wanted him back. Its cool he wanted to play for his hometown, but now bypass the Yankees to play for archrival BoSox does not make sense. It is weird. Maybe he wants to take the David Cone route. Maybe Wells is trying to out do David Cone so he can get into the Hall of Fame. Wells wants to move up into the same class as Maddux, Clemens, Glavine, Smoltz, Schilling and Johnson and move away from the pack that includes Cone, Gooden, Brown and Mussina.
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  • 80sToyguy80sToyguy Posts: 383
    Javy had one bad year in NY guys, he is dominating, but it certainly does look like he'll have a hard time dealing with the NY media and fans. I will say this though, if he goes to Arizona he'll win 16-18+ games a year for them and WILL be one of the best pitchers in the NL. But Gemmy, saying that Pavano is an up and comer is a joke. I will compare him to the situation that Neil O'Donnell, formerly of the Pittsburgh Steelers, got himself into. He wanted the big bucks, so he left a comfortable situation to go to a pressure cooker (NY), and ended up a joke. If either NY or Boston give Pavano 10 mil a year it's a joke, just a stupid joke, considering Clement is still available and is a FAR superior pitcher to Pavano. Remember, this joker was included with Armas for Pedro in the trade that sent Pedro to Boston from Montreal. When the deal went through Armas was to be the better pitcher (which quite frankly I still believe he is). I suffered year after year with Pavano, Boston or NY fans will as well. I can't believe you guys want him on your team--LOOK AT HIS STATS prior to last year!!!!
    Come on Yankees and Red Sox, this is a joke, What a JOKE!!!!
    Sorry I'm getting like this guys, but this is another reason that arbitration does not work in baseball--the next guy with decent stats for one year (like Pavano), will inch closer to 10 mil a season--this screws everything up!
    Jay
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Toyguy,

    Pavano pitched very well against the Yankees in the 2003 WS.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Looks like Pavano to the Yanks might be true:

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    Over on the SOSH forums, the posters are already laughing at how much the Yankees overpayed for "Vasquez Part II".
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  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Hmm....if the Yankees sign Pavano do you think it will help the price of this original oil painting? LOL:

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