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Does something seem fishy with this auction?

Look at the guys feedback. Also look at the coin, it seems out of place, as if it was photoshopped and put in the holder. Am I missing something, it that coin for real? My gut says something is wrong.. Ebay link

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    What I don't get is why the coin is at $690? GS on a 82-S in MS66 is $335/$365, even if someone is thinking crackout and upgrade the coin only jumps to $915. Seems like a huge risk for a chance at an upgrade.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • That's one of the cleanest Morgans I've ever seen.I'f the guy had more feedback I may have been tempted.
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks VERY photoshopped !! Looks like a 69 !!

    Weird........
    Paul
  • bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cert number matches the coin on PCGS. Feedback shows he has been a buyer a "lot" more than he has sold. Most of us started out buying and then selling.
    Ken
  • Smoething does not look right.

    Coin looks like a 69 but funny !

    Great copy ?

    Photoshopped to death ?

    2 different coins ?
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  • That was my first impression, that the coin just looks too good.

    If that's "only" a 66 then I've never seen a 67 and I need to downgrade every Morgan I've got by at least 2 to 3 points.

    Upgrade candidate is an understatement if the coin really looks like that. image
    "Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose."
    John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
  • Feed back is very funky !
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Looks better than this one...
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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • When I first saw the auction I was going to bid thinking PQQQQ, but the coin images seem too bright and nice to have been captured by an ameture through the slab. His feedback is basically all from the same seller. I don't know, if it really looked like that then its a shot 8 coin.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    First thing I thought was a PS job. Just looks different than its surroundings.
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  • Good eye Clackamas - 1) there is no way that the coin pictured is the one you will receive, IMHO. It's been photoshopped into the holder (well, actually "on top" of the holder.) It looks like no slab photo I've ever seen. 2) his feedback is very suspicious - his main "supplier" is in Temple, TX and he lives in Austin, TX. They're less than an hour apart, yet he buys a ton of stuff over the internet from the guy just up the road? Hmmmm... 3) If a PCGS grader made this coin a 66, then I'll eat the slab it's not in.

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207
    I think the "cameo" shots of the obverse and reverse are greyscale'd...may add to the weirdness effect.
  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    What bothers me is the shadow at the lower right of the coin. How could a coin produce a shadow inside a holder. Just my opinion. image
    Wayne
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    TUMUSS,
    nice rainbow toning on the photo....maybe you should swap icons???
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think he took the big pics & photoshopped them onto the slab pic. It's possible it could be a matter of not being able to get a good pic
    of it in the slab but still that's deceptive. Very suspicious auction but at the same time it could be a winner coin.

    Who knows?

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    TUMUSS, be careful Cammy doesn't steel your sig. line picture.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    Here's a blow up of the obverse slab image. Pretty obvious to me.

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  • The highlight levels have been cranked up in Photoshop, blowing out imperfections. From there the flaws were cloned out; I can tell from areas that are too smooth and do not retain the subtle texture on the fields. The cartwheel luster was excentuated with a screen overlay.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    I must admit; the coin looks TOO perfect.


    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • Has to be the cleanest looking Morgan i've seen, not a bagmark or scratch in sight, if this is how it really looked I would buy and crack it for resubmision. Based on those photos it's atleast a MS-68.
    Scott Hopkins
    -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.

    My Ebay!
  • Sold for $760 bucks, doctored photo and all.

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