Can I get a show of hands regarding old photo-certified holders?

Myqqy

I picked up this 21-D morgan on ebay(my first old photo certified holder), and it arrived today in the mail. Holy crap!! It's a beautiful morgan, and easily a 64.... so I'm wondering what other people have experienced with these holders? Have they been undergraded, properly graded, overgraded? Thanks for answering.....

airplanenut

They were, on average, probably a bit tight. I have a 1948 Franky in a 64 holder that could easily go 65, and is near FBL... very nice coin.

Jeremy

byergo

I have a Morgan with amazing bright blue reverse rim toning and it's easily a point or two undergraded in the old PCI holder (w/pic insert as shown). Those holders are COOL!

Myqqy

Anybody else?? Please??

ccex

By "photo certified", do you mean early PCI or might you include ANACS certificates from the 1980s or very early Accugrade slabs? Yes I know there are many others (and I have a couple of others). Here's my oddity in grading nomenclature, an Accugrade photoslab graded A3-63C, which means a cleaned AU which Alan Hager called a "commercial 63" in the mid-to-late1980s

mathprof

The PCI photo-slabbed MS Morgans I've seen (and owned) have been undergraded by one or two points by today's PCGS standards.

MadMarty

IT's nice.. You paid above GS for it. So let's look at it...

Price paid with shipping $62
Shipping to PCGS $5
Grading fee $30
Shipping back $11

Total cost of maybe getting a MS64 $108

Greysheet bid on a MS64 $105



Not saying there is anything wrong with that. If you like the coin BUY IT!!

darktone

I agree with Marty. It's about an even deal if it does upgrade and if it stays the same it's a losing deal. I see lots of coins that have a chance of upgrading a point but unfortunately the risk of loss out weighs the reward on low dollar stuff- it is fun to get upgrades though. Now if it was 63DCAM with a shot at 64DCAM............................... It would already have been tried a few times. Nice coin none either way it goes. mike

CarlWohlforth

My Columbian seems about right. I like the info but I guess most people wanted the grade boiled down to one number.

IrishMike

From those photos, as I always hesitate to grade from them it looks 64 to me. I think you did good.

IrishMike

Here's 21-D graded 64 by NGC, you can use it to compare to yours.

RotatedRainbows

The only photo style cert I have had regraded is from a different company, bought a couple yours ago on Bidville auction site for $65. It now resides in a NGC MS65* holder.

GAT

In the days before the I'net became a factor, those old PCI and ANACS holders sold at a discount of around two points or more from their stated grades.

Shamika

I'd like to see a better picture, but from what I can see, it certainly does look ALL of MS64. Funny thing is, I'm having a hard time matching the coin to the PCI picture.

Personally, I think you did well.