I think this guy...

JTB

just messed up some perfectly good 85 Fleer

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What do you think?

A761506

Every one of them are fake. Some of them are convincing, but there are notable differences. The guy who signed all of these used a smooth wavy line (in a U or upside down U shape) on many occasions where the authentic signature is more of a V or upside down V shape.

On the Pete Rose card, you can easily tell it's fake because of the swooping P and R. On the P, Rose usually gets the start and end point of the letter to begin and end nearly the same depth into the P. On the R, he does not leave a huge line like that running straight up through the middle of the letter.

oaktown

To quote Elaine from Seinfeld:

"Fake, fake...fake...fake"

Allen

He has already found 14 suckers. Looks like he ruined some good vintage stuff too.

Stone193

I'll tell ya what tho - he did a good job on the Rose!



A PSA/DNA sig:



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Mike

Stone193

I don't know squat about auto's but this guy is either damn good or he is mixing good with bad...this Sutton looks really close also:

PSA Sutton:



His:



A lot of times cards are signed "on the fly" and this card looks a lot like the litho sig IMO - this guy would have had to take the time to access a large inventory of exemplars or do a lot of "research" to sell them - hard to believe but heck, when you are sitting in prison with a lot of time on your hands....

magellan

<< <i>when you are sitting in prison with a lot of time on your hands.... >>



Oh , these are vargha's auctions?

boggs301012

The one auto I have an opinion on looks to be real but is a sloppy signature. I am 80% sure it is real but do to the B looking so bad I will pass. If not I would have bid.


James

Stone193

<< <i>Oh , these are vargha's auctions? >>

NickM

I have several Sutton autographs (he's one of the easiest HOFers to get, since he signs often at the stadium as a broadcaster), and the card just does not look right. Sutton's autograph is much more vertically compact than that.

Nick

Stone193

<< <i>Sutton's autograph is much more vertically compact than that. >>


Nick
I really enjoy looking at this stuff and try to develop some kind of eye - does your stuff look like the psa/dna one? I'm not saying the card is authentic but it is kind of close and this guy has done his homework!
Heck, he could have put anything and most people wouldn't know the difference. Does this make sense?
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Mike

NickM

I looked at 2 signed Sutton balls (one from a signing at a store, one from a game he was broadcasting), and both look fairly close to the PSA/DNA signature shown.

Nick

pandrews

i've never seen Rickey Henderson's auto with a "loop" at the end.. i could be wrong, but I think every one i've ever seen ends with somewhat of a straight line.. NOT like this: