I got more grades from across the street! My first star and another CHA-CHING!!!!!

Russ · December 9, 2004 6:40AM

Certification # 1888326-001
Date / Info 1962
Denomination 50C
Grade PF67*

Certification # 1888326-002
Date / Info 1964
Denomination 50C
Grade PF69UCAM

NGC is fast!!!! These were shipped to NCS on the 19th, arrived on the 23rd and sent over to NGC day before yesterday!!!!!

I think they were pretty hard on the Franklin and it deserved the cameo designation. I'm damned pleased with the Kennedy, though! That's my second PR69UCAM in the last week!

The coins:

Pulled from a set BINed on eBay for $35.

Pulled from a set sniped for $12.

Russ, NCNE

ss350camaro · December 9, 2004 6:41AM

Those are tooooooootally beachin' Russ !!!

MadMarty · December 9, 2004 6:42AM

You suck!!!

kidd · December 9, 2004 6:44AM

that tells me who sniped my sets anyway! I agree with you on the Franklin.

dthigpen · December 9, 2004 6:46AM

I can see why the Franklin didn't go Cam (On the obverse). AWESOME score on the Kennedy!

Russ · December 9, 2004 6:49AM

<< I can see why the Franklin didn't go Cam (On the obverse). >>

The obverse is very close to DCAM, if not there. It's the reverse that comes up a bit short.

Russ, NCNE

Numismanic · December 9, 2004 6:49AM

Excellent grades. The Franklin sure looks cameo though.

tlhoy · December 9, 2004 6:52AM

Russ, will you adopt me

Please?

Glenn

Russ · December 9, 2004 6:54AM

Glenn,

Have Marty adopt you. He has much more than I do. BTW, love that pic!

Russ, NCNE

dthigpen · December 9, 2004 6:55AM

<< 

<< I can see why the Franklin didn't go Cam (On the obverse). >>

The obverse is very close to DCAM, if not there. It's the reverse that comes up a bit short.

Russ, NCNE >>

Perhaps it's the imaging that's deceiving, the lower right part of Franklin's shirt and neckerchief don't look all too cam. Or perhaps it's just your exagerated lighting

Russ · December 9, 2004 6:56AM

Shadows. Sometimes I have a problem with that because the camera body blocks the lighting.

Russ, NCNE

PhillyJoe · December 9, 2004 7:09AM

I can't get that ringing sound out of my head with all these cha-chings going on lately. Beautiful coin. Sat in a proof set for 40 years as a NICE coin; in the last two weeks it goes to the very top of all 1964's minted.

Joe

Coinhusker1 · December 9, 2004 7:10AM

<< These were shipped to NCS on the 19th, >>

What did you have NCS do to the coins?

Russ · December 9, 2004 7:14AM

<< << These were shipped to NCS on the 19th, >>

What did you have NCS do to the coins? >>

Surface stabilization to prevent future milk spot development.

Russ, NCNE

tmot99 · December 9, 2004 7:15AM

<< 

<< These were shipped to NCS on the 19th, >>

What did you have NCS do to the coins? >>

Sandblast cameo contract onto the devices.

Coinhusker1 · December 9, 2004 7:16AM

<< 

<< << These were shipped to NCS on the 19th, >>

What did you have NCS do to the coins? >>

Surface stabilization to prevent future milk spot development.

Russ, NCNE >>

Did you have to dip off some milk spots to begin with?

Russ · December 9, 2004 7:23AM

<< Did you have to dip off some milk spots to begin with? >>

No. Milk spots are not dippable. Once they develop, they are permanent. Proof coins of this era can, and do, sometimes develop them after being removed from the proof packaging. Something I learned the hard way, so I now stabilize all of them before submission. The mirrors on these two pieces are exceptionally deep, which equals exceptionally delicate, so instead of doing it myself I left it to the pros.

Russ, NCNE

SanctionII · December 9, 2004 7:24AM

Congrats Russ. I really like the JFK. If it had been an AH, what would the value an NGC PF69UCAM be? Further, if it was a PCGS PF69 DCAM AH, what would the value of that be?

One of these days I might have to take the plunge and join a TPG so that I can submit some of the cameo Frankies and silver Kennedies I have acquired.

I imagine (especially for the first time you submit coins) that:

1. picking out what you think are your best raw coins;

2. placing your own grade on them;

3. sending them in to a TPG;

4. waiting anxiously while the coins are slabbed and returned; and

5. receiving the coins and either experiencing the thrill of receiving grades equal to or better than what you assigned to the coins, or experiencing the agony of receiving grades (such as Marty's 58's) far below what you assigned to the coins

is one heck of an experience [similar to the process leading up to your first kiss, etc.]

Russ, what are the details of your first submission to a TPG?

nwcs · December 9, 2004 7:25AM

What do you think that jfk would grade at pcgs?

Russ · December 9, 2004 7:29AM

<< If it had been an AH, what would the value an NGC PF69UCAM be? >>

There's only one, and it sold in private treaty for around $11,000. If a second was made, I'd guess it would be in the $8,000 range.

<< Further, if it was a PCGS PF69 DCAM AH, what would the value of that be? >>

That's hard to say, since none have ever been graded. But, if I had to give an estimate, I'd say easily $15,000 - and $20,000 would not be out of the realm of possibility.

Russ, NCNE

Russ · December 9, 2004 7:33AM

<< What do you think that jfk would grade at pcgs? >>

PR69DCAM. Of course, what I think a coin will grade and what it does are all too frequently two different things.

Russ, NCNE

coinbuf · December 9, 2004 7:38AM

It's been said already but nice score!

Chris

LeeG · December 9, 2004 7:40AM

I don't know how I really feel about this? It' one of these two:

Great Job Russ

relayer · December 9, 2004 7:40AM

Drinks are on Russ

ER · December 9, 2004 7:41AM

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RGL · December 9, 2004 10:01AM

DHeath · December 9, 2004 10:33AM

Wow. One is difficult. Two is awesome.

Neil, Marty's been crossing at roughly a 75% rate. My last 5 coin crackout NGC--> PCGS upgraded two coin and improved the designation on two others.

They've been plenty tough on moderns for some time now.