Would You Pay 50 Grand for this Mantle RC - I'm like butta, I'm on a Roll!

Stone193

This Mantle is currently at auction with Mastronet.com
Normally, looking at their stuff makes me want to "mastrobate" - but I would say this one is not worth that kind of money IMO.



The item description says that the card has a slight tilt - that's like saying that Barry Bonds' head is slightly larger than it was in 1987!

What do you guys think?

your friend
Mike

Allen

The tilt will hurt the price.

A761506

Card looks pretty sweet to me. It's a nice looking 8, and even with the tilt, it's still very well centered. Now, the question of whether I'd pay $50K for it is a whole other story.

Stone193

<< <i>The tilt will hurt the price. >>


Allen
It's already up to 50K not including the BP, even if I had more money than brains, I might pass on this one; there are plenty of nice "centered" 8's for less money.



Here's one that sold in 2001 for 33K and nicer IMO. I will say this...really high end Mantles may be a good investment?

your friend
Mike

mrchris74

Is it me or does the tilt look more pronounced on the right side than on the left?

Chris

koby

Some of the Mastro clients have so much money that they could spend tens of thousands of dollars without even looking at the card. More power to them.

JERO

The tilt is a bit much and I don't see how PSA doesn't give this a OC designation since it easily detracts from the card. Having said that, PSA 8 mantles tend to go in the low 40's so this price does seem particulary strong. You know what i'm thinking... With the dollar plunging to hell against other currencies, I wonder if foreign investors will be coming in soon or are already here. Kinda like japan and hawaii in the 80s? With the euro up nearly 50% against the dollar just over the past couple years, this is like them getting goods at a 50% discount. Ever think about that? So if you dumped 100 grand into the euro shortly after they converted, you would have a 150 grand US now, and this mantle would be "free". Not bad for a couple years in the boring currency market huh?

JERO

Stone193

<< <i>Is it me or does the tilt look more pronounced on the right side than on the left? >>


Chris
When a card picture is tilted, it really messes me up and is hard to tell what is going on. Some people will call that card a diamond cut - but you can have a perfectly square card (and tilted pic) that is the proper rectangle or you can have a true diamond cut where the card is shaped like a parallelogram. What you are seeing there is a tilted card that isn't perfectly centered, so the illusion of uneven tilt.



I put the card in a toploader so you can see the card is not square.
your friend
Mike

Allen

Thanks Stone...I just fell out of my chair after looking at the pics in this post.
Everything seems a bit tilted now, oh no wait im just drunk.

denwd1

i'm trying real hard to imagine having $50k,still trying............well if i had $50,000 it wouldn't be spent on a nm/mt tilted mantle. thats for someone who has a whole lota $$$

Vargha

The tilt is a bit much and I don't see how PSA doesn't give this a OC designation since it easily detracts from the card.

OC is measured at the point where there is the narrowest amount of border. This looks like a straight "8" to me. Stone's point is that someone is obviously buying the holder as this would definitely fall under the heading of "low-end 8".

MorrellMan

<< <i>What do you guys think? >>



Progressing inward from the four nicely pointed corners, the observer's eye encounters pleasingly aligned borders with just a hint of the issue's often-seen tendency toward a "diamond cut" presentation, as well as admirable gloss complementing the item's priceless center image.

I think I see the card sashaying down a fashion runway to light strains of muzak....

Buccaneer

<< <i>The tilt is a bit much and I don't see how PSA doesn't give this a OC designation since it easily detracts from the card.

OC is measured at the point where there is the narrowest amount of border. This looks like a straight "8" to me. Stone's point is that someone is obviously buying the holder as this would definitely fall under the heading of "low-end 8". >>



Someone obviously buying the holder???? What in the world would make them do that, David?

Vargha

Steve -- It's Joe Orlando and he plans to take over the entire world through some kind of hypnosis machine. My house and both cars are lined with aluminum foil to block the powerful waves.

magellan

Don't forget the cap Dave, don't forget the cap. Double layered is preferable.

Stone193

<< <i>My house and both cars are lined with aluminum foil to block the powerful waves. >>


I share Vargha's assumption and been actively protecting myself and loved one for years. JO is just the latest pawn in what can only be a conspiracy to own all the graded material on the planet! With respect to the head unit: it can't be stressed enough how important it is to have the shiny side pointing out. This is needed because the shiny side is most reflective to psychotronic radiation, while the dull side can actually, in certain environmental conditions, absorb it. it is also wise to complement this with a layer of foil pointing shiny side in. This will keep your brain waves, which are also reflected by the shiny side, from being picked up by mind-reading equipment. There is a small number of aluminum foil researchers who believe that this may cause an alpha-wave harmonic to build up in the skull resulting in memory loss or pseudo-religious visions, but their findings have never been replicated by the aluminum foil research community at large.

Lastly, If your foil is less than 16 microns, increase the number of layers used in construction...you can also add wire, random bits of foil to enhance its effectiveness.

WinPitcher

graded NM-MT 8 by PSA. In terms of percentage, this splendid showpiece is among the 6% most-elite Mantle rookies in the hobby. As small as this number is, however, and reflective as it may be of the card's superlative character, the figure stops short of addressing the item's true significance.


can u say bu11$hlT

Vargha

Steve, I can even say, "bullshit".

Stone193

<< <i>Steve, I can even say, "bullsh!t". >>




David
If you retire from the boards or are part of the first expeditionary force to Mars, I would like you to will me the code!

your friend
Mike

pc

<< <i>The tilt is a bit much and I don't see how PSA doesn't give this a OC designation since it easily detracts from the card. Having said that, PSA 8 mantles tend to go in the low 40's so this price does seem particulary strong. You know what i'm thinking... With the dollar plunging to hell against other currencies, I wonder if foreign investors will be coming in soon or are already here. Kinda like japan and hawaii in the 80s? With the euro up nearly 50% against the dollar just over the past couple years, this is like them getting goods at a 50% discount. Ever think about that? So if you dumped 100 grand into the euro shortly after they converted, you would have a 150 grand US now, and this mantle would be "free". Not bad for a couple years in the boring currency market huh?

JERO >>



excuse me but 132 euros isnt 150

JERO

If you dig a little deeper you would know that while the euro started at 1:1 it actually fell to .88 cents to 1 euro. now it is $1.32 to one euro. thus it is (.88 to 1.32) right at being up 50% from its all time low (not its introduction point).

JERO

WarHoundR69

I'm waiting for Horrors of War # 283 - Hitler Threatens Europe to come up in PSA10. I'll bid - lets see:

1. One Million - No

2. One Billion - No

3. One Trillion - No

4. One Quadrillion - No

5. One Quintillion - No

6. One Sextillion - No

7. One Septillion - No

8. One Octillion - No

9. One Nonillion - No

10. One Decallion - No

Guess I'll have to bid one googplex ( The number 1 followed by 100 zeros).

Just having fun with this post.