Opinions wanted on this 1883-S Morgan (Cleaned?)

tlhoy

This is what he says in his auction.

One of the concerns we are addressing in this auction is the concern that bidders have with regards to cleaned coins. There is a difference with mint polished coins and cleaned coins. We will illustrate through the photos of the 1883-S DPML taken by the aforementioned photographer how distinctively different the mint polish lines are from cleaning. You will see in the photos that the mint-polish lines are visible without magnification and while the usual cleaning lines is visible only through magnification.

Has this coin been cleaned & is it DPML<sic>

K6AZ

Polished would be more like it.

Stuart

Likely harshly cleaned, although the poor quality photo is quite unrevealing as far as detail is concerned, however I can see enough detail in the poor photo to cause me to feel that the coin has been harshly cleaned. It also appears to also have been circulated.

The 1883-S Morgan is quite rare in true DMPL designation and is uncommon in true PL.

mgoodm3

Oooo. shiny.

poorguy

I'd definitely pass on that one. It's obviously been cleaned, harshly cleaned.

morgannut2

Oh boy how often do you get to buy an MS-63Dmpl '83-S for less than $15,000. Very rare coin shown!

TerrapinWill

What is meant by HARSHLY CLEANED, POLISHED, etc...could you please explain.....

mgoodm3

Grab a coin, get out a brillo pad and clean it up. you will then know the meaning of cleaning and polishing.

dthigpen

Whizzed.

paigowjohnny

AU to boot

morgannut2

Terrapin Will: to answer your question. Back in the 1950's thru 1970's , sleasy promoters took a drill with a fine wire brush on it and polished about uncirculated coins until they shined like Unc. prooflke of Proof rare coins. The unsuspecting public was used to seeing white coins coming out of mint bags all the way through the 1960's, so they thought these were nice coins to buy. There are many still around, especially the semi-rare dated ones like this---but uncertified. There are in fact polishing lines on early-stuck Morgans with prooflike surfaces, but these lines are in one direction, and are RAISED lines in the fields only NOT found (except rarely) on the raised devices. The devices, or pictures, are usually dull and very frosty looking on real DMPL's, not polished and shiney looking. Hope this helps.

tlhoy

If you haven't guessed it yet.

This is 2centsin new auction.

Glenn

Stuart

TerrapinWill: The replies that you are receiving are trying to warn you to stay away from purchasing raw (uncertified) coins until you have acquired some grading skills, to help you avoid risking and potentially losing your entire investment in potentially improperly graded coins.

Based on your reply, we are assuming that you may be a newcomer when it comes to grading coins. The replies are intended to protect you from potentially getting burned...

KollectorKing

Valuable & educational thread that both newbies and veterans should read & learn from.

K6AZ

<< <i>If you haven't guessed it yet.

This is 2centsin new auction.

Glenn >>



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Uh oh, did he get the boot?

K6AZ

NARU'ed!

ss350camaro

<< <i>NARU'ed! >>




Man !!? It's about time !

morgannut2

Boy that slease never quits does he.

Coinhusker1

<< <i>NARU'ed! >>




Finally!!

This seller was so unstable, makes me wonder what he will do next . . . . he seemed to want this to happen as his auctions became bolder and more outrageous each time (i.e. the fake slabs, references to yellow brain fluid, etc).

TerrapinWill

Are there any acceptable ways for coins to be cleaned, or polished.

dthigpen

<< <i>Are there any acceptable ways for coins to be cleaned, or polished. >>



no