Book wanted...British Silver Coins Since 1816 by Peter Davies

agraded

If anyone has a copy for sale or knows where I can buy one in the US please let me know. Shipping from the UK would be quite slow this time of year so I want to try here in the US first. TIA Bob

MacCrimmon

I only found two, but both were in the UK.....

Lloyd offered some last year; maybe he still has a copy....but alas, he's in the UK.

agraded

Mac, it was Lloyd that told me how useful the book was for identifying varieties that got me looking for one. I'll keep an eye out here in the states until after the holidays then break down and buy one from overseas.

AndyBruce

Hello Bob! Good to see you here.

We have copies of British Silver Coins Since 1816 for sale on the website but, of course, they are in the UK.

Not sure how long they would take to reach you in the run-up to Christmas though....but if interested, let me know.

Cheers

Andy

MacCrimmon

Link Fixed

Welcome, Andy!

Cheers,

Mac

agraded

Thanks Andy and welcome to this forum, no doubt members here can benefit from your participation. I had seen the copy on the OLC website and had it in mind should I not be able to find one here in the US. Bob PS You've got e-mail at the website.

AndyBruce

<< <i>Link Fixed

Welcome, Andy!

Cheers,

Mac >>



Thanks for the fixed link, Mac - have sorted it out now so the link in the sig line should now work. Any probs, let me know and I'll take another look.

And cheers for the welcome!

AndyBruce

<< <i>Thanks Andy and welcome to this forum, no doubt members here can benefit from your participation. I had seen the copy on the OLC website and had it in mind should I not be able to find one here in the US. Bob PS You've got e-mail at the sebsite. >>



Hi Bob - only just found this Forum but nice to see a few familiar names.

That's fine about the book. Will take a look at your email and get back to you.

Cheers

Andy

coinkat

Welcome Andy... I look forward to your participation on the forum. I hope others from the UK will also join and share their thoughts

Aethelred

<< <i>Welcome Andy... I look forward to your participation on the forum. I hope others from the UK will also join and share their thoughts >>



I concur, welcome Andy!

wybrit

It's a "fabb" book, Bob. I enjoy that particular one.

AndyBruce(y): welcome to the forum!

Aethelred

I see several books I'd like to own on your site Andy. The book about the Soho mint looks quite interesting.

AndyBruce

<< <i>I see several books I'd like to own on your site Andy. The book about the Soho mint looks quite interesting. >>



Hi and thanks for the welcome everyone. Good to hear that you're after some of my books! With regards to the Soho mint - here's some extra info on this.....

DOTY, R. - The Soho Mint and the Industrialisation of Money.

"Richard Doty's beautifully produced book is described as "the first extensive history of the Soho Mint". It is the second British Numismatic Society Special Publication and it does the Society, its associates and the author great credit.

The book includes details of Matthew Boulton and his family, the mints - for there were three altogether, the coins produced and the mint machinery. It is a well illustrated book, and the black and white coin photographs accompanying the text are particularly good. There is much more however, because this is not just a book about a famous mint, but about the pioneer in the leap from pre-industrial methods to the development of a progressive manufacturing process. It stimulated development of the steam engine through Boulton's requirements and his non-mint partnership with James Watt, and it treated the production of coins much as any factory would eventually do in order to achieve efficient production.

Much of the story, and what a fraught story it is, concerns the attempts to sell complete or partial mints, including their setting-up. This was to a pre-industrial world not yet ready for the rapid advances being made in Britain. Mints were exported to Calcutta, Bombay, Russia, Denmark, and Mexico, and many other lengthy negotiations came to nothing. Commercially this was not an unqualified success, but its documentation has much to interest numismatists as well as social and industrial historians.

The spur for Boulton to produce coins came from the state of British copper circulating in the 1780s. Counterfeits constituted much of the coin, and he set out to make coins which would be less easy to fake. That his products were in a class of their own is recognised by numismatists familiar with coinage in the first half of the 19th century. Soho is best known for its Regal copper of George III, especially the "cartwheel" twopences and pennies of two and one ounce of copper respectively.

A notable innovation of Boulton's provided a temporary solution to Britain's silver plight. In 1804 he utilised the massive power of his steam driven presses to completely overstrike Spanish-American dollars. The resulting Bank of England dollars had little of the original design visible and over one million were struck at a rate of 42,000 per day.

The first commercially struck order in 1789 was, however, for a humble token. The honour probably goes to the Cronebane halfpennies struck for John Westwood. Many token orders followed and the East India Company was also an early and subsequent good customer. Another interesting and early order, completed in 1792 to 1793, came from the Sierra Leone Company for silver as well as copper.

After Boulton's death in 1809 less coinage was struck under his son's direction, but coining did continue spasmodically until 1849, when a token for a Melbourne Grocer was the last order. In 1850 the Soho Mint was sold and Ralph Heaton and Sons bought much of the coining
machinery, which continued in use on a different site until about 1880.

There are many unresolved questions and anomalies encountered by Richard Doty in the book, but we must hope that further research will help solve some of them. Meanwhile, the book is a remarkable tour de force."

John Roberts-Lewis

(Reprinted from Newsletter, The Journal of the London Numismatic Club. Vol. VIII. No. 5. January 2002).



Let me know if you are interested in purchasing this or any of the other books - there's a link next to each book on the website and you can click on this and fill in your full address details (or even better register on the site and it should prefill this info for you!) Any further questions, feel free to give me a shout.

Cheers

Andy

Conder101

I can recommend the Soho book. I've owned two copies of it so far and I found it a facinating read. I gave one copy away to another Conder collector, and now I can't find my copy so I may have to buy a third one.

AndyBruce

Well if you can't get one in the US, Condor - then you know where to come!

Askari

Welcome, Andy!!

AndyBruce

Thanks Askari - good to be here!

AndyBruce

<< <i>If anyone has a copy for sale or knows where I can buy one in the US please let me know. Shipping from the UK would be quite slow this time of year so I want to try here in the US first. TIA Bob >>



Hi Bob - just wondered if you are still after a copy of BSC? Or did you manage to find one in the US?

Cheers

Andy

agraded

Hi Bob - just wondered if you are still after a copy of BSC? Or did you manage to find one in the US?

Andy, I have a friend visiting in Ipswitch that is picking up a copy for me. Thanks, Bob

AndyBruce

<< <i>Hi Bob - just wondered if you are still after a copy of BSC? Or did you manage to find one in the US?

Andy, I have a friend visiting in Ipswitch that is picking up a copy for me. Thanks, Bob >>





No problem, Bob - glad you were able to find one.

Also, have you received Neelam's email (sent to you on 5th Jan)? If not, I'll ask her to resend it....

Cheers

Andy

agraded

Also, have you received Neelam's email (sent to you on 5th Jan)? If not, I'll ask her to resend it....

Yes I have Andy, thanks. By the way, I've had a couple of people ask me about your guest dealer fees and sales commissions for 2005. I passed the info along to them but could you provide a link to where this is explained on the website in case others ask.

Cheers,
Bob

AndyBruce

<< <i>Also, have you received Neelam's email (sent to you on 5th Jan)? If not, I'll ask her to resend it....

Yes I have Andy, thanks. By the way, I've had a couple of people ask me about your guest dealer fees and sales commissions for 2005. I passed the info along to them but could you provide a link to where this is explained on the website in case others ask.

Cheers,
Bob >>




That's good, Bob - if you can get back to her before the 20th Jan that would be great. I'll let her know you've received the email in any case.

The fees info is not on the website because, as you know, we prefer to offer a personal service. So, if you can possibly ask the interested parties to contact me directly - either to PM me or via the website then either myself or Neelam can get back to each of them individually to answer any questions they may have. Many thanks for passing the info along to them in the meantime.

What OnlineCoins offers Guest Dealers

Many thanks, Bob - look forward to hearing from you (and them - and anyone else who may be interested and would like to find out more about what we can offer).

Andy

agraded

The fees info is not on the website because, as you know, we prefer to offer a personal service.

Hi Andy, OK I was unaware the fees weren't posted on the website but I will refer any future inquiries directly to you as requested.

Bob - if you can get back to her before the 20th Jan that would be great.

I'm watching the Heritage HWCA as a factor in deciding what I personally want to sell in 2005. It closes in a couple of days so I'll get back to you way before the 20th. It might be better to e-mail me if we need to discuss this further so as not to take up messageboard space.

Cheers,
Bob