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Rules you should know BEFORE buying coins on eBay. Buyers/Sellers PLEASE HELP!

This is an educational thread. It is intended to help anyone that's about to buy coins on eBay.
Buyers/Sellers: Please add your rules to this thread.
Thank you,

Glenn

Now for a couple of my rules.

Feedback is VERY important. Read the sellers feedback before you bid.
Poor spelling or poor English auctions, should be ignored. If the seller doesn't care about his/her spelling, then he/she doesn't care about what they are selling.

Edited because I'm silly.

Comments

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Poor spelling or poor English auctions, should be ignored. >>



    I've pulled some of my best scores from sellers who would flunk a kindergarten spelling bee.

    I'll add one of my rules:

    Unless the auction explicitly states that the image is the actual coin/set being sold, eMail and ask.

    Russ, NCNE
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭
    READ the auction details and ask any unanswered questions before you bid not after or worse yet after you have won. Never ASSUME the seller will behave the way you would. ASK first.

    Oh yeah, if it's too good to be true ...

    Joe.
  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭
    A reasonable "return policy" is a must ... especially if the coins are raw.

    Ask for larger or clearer photos. Sometimes the seller will oblige.

    Beware of most sellers in Asian countries.
    image

    My OmniCoin Collection
    My BankNoteBank Collection
    Tom, formerly in Albuquerque, NM.
  • I`m new to this forum, but my input is this... if it isn`t in a slab then don`t believe the grade that it says it is, grade it for yourself and decide what grade you think it is and what it is worth to you. the grade they may state may be thier opinion. i`ve bought alot of MS coins only to end up with AU.
    If you can read this, your too close.

    A DAMMIT BOY from Jonesy 1/25/05

    Lieutenant, Covert Operations
    Subcommittee

    my first POTD award 7/16/05
    the cat ate my blue fish.
  • Yeah, raw coins 99% of the time are about one grade below what is stated in the description of the coin. You should expect that and bid accordingly; value the coin a grade lower than what is described.
    image Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known
    My EBay Store/Auctions
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>if it isn`t in a slab then don`t believe the grade that it says it is, grade it for yourself >>



    The same applies even when it is in a slab.

    Russ, NCNE
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    If specific S/H/INS charges aren't stated. e-mail and obtain the info. Otherwise, you may pay $12 S/H for a 99C coin.image
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.


  • << <i>Yeah, raw coins 99% of the time are about one grade below what is stated in the description of the coin. You should expect that and bid accordingly; value the coin a grade lower than what is described. >>



    Do you define one grade MS64 down to MS63? Or MS to AU?

    There are sellers that I see on ebay that regularly overgrade their coins 1 to 2 grades up (calling a VF an XF, calling an AU an MS, etc.)

    David
  • you got me there Russ
    If you can read this, your too close.

    A DAMMIT BOY from Jonesy 1/25/05

    Lieutenant, Covert Operations
    Subcommittee

    my first POTD award 7/16/05
    the cat ate my blue fish.
  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do not post on holiday weekends or holidays in general. Less folks watching means lower bids.
    Winter is better than summer to sell. Those stuck in cold climates have nothing better to do than to bid.
    Never post with an ending time before 4 pm. People have to work!

    WS
    Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
  • Yeah, ending time is important, especially when your starting price comes close to the value of the coin as in my auctions. I'd be interested to know some others' opinions on what's the best ending time. I like between 7:00 & 8:00 PM Eastern Time.
    Down a grade, yes, if it states ms-64 then don't expect better than ms-63.
    image Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known
    My EBay Store/Auctions
  • Welcome kidd!

    Here are some, many have already been mentioned:

    - Sellers feedback should be very close to %100 positive
    - If buying an expensive item make sure seller has done many transactions like it before
    - Don't guess, ask questions
    - Make sure to add in shipping fees to your bid to figure out your final cost
    - Estate sales usually aren't from estates
    - Unsearched rolls usually have been searched
    - Many unopened proof sets have already been opened
    - Raw coins are usually optimistically graded (over graded)
    - Even detailed photos can hide problems, insist on a return policy or pass
    - If something looks fishy it probably is
  • End the auction no later than 9pm on a Sunday, list on thurs for a 10 day, and if it junk- PLEASE SAY JUNK- it may be poor salesmanship- but just might be more to a trained eye.
  • dougwtxdougwtx Posts: 566 ✭✭
    Beware of coins being sold from China. Most are probably copies/replicas of US rare coins.

    Doug
  • And if u r buying more than one item, email about combined shipping, if not stated in listing.
    Just Learning!
    Thank You
    SilverDollar
  • Rules you should know BEFORE buying coins on eBay

    One word- "Don't"
    Rufus T. Firefly: How would you like a job in the mint?

    Chicolini: Mint? No, no, I no like a mint. Uh - what other flavor you got?



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  • Actually read the negative feedback - sometimes you can decipher if the person is trustworthy or not. I don't bid on anything from a Seller with less than 99.7 or 99.8 - even that makes me nervous.
    I actually emailed a seller the other day, and told him that I had read his feedback - and was there any reason that I should not trust him and/or receive goods as described. He looked iffy, but he emailed back.

    Read the fine print - and Yes, always check on combined shipping if not stated. I recently bid on two auctions by the same seller - I still ended up paying 6.50 for a 3.50 package. Another guy flat would not combine shipping period. What a jerk/rip off. My fault.

    What the auction does NOT say is what you need to be on the look out for. Roll of circulated Franklins = all forties, unless stated otherwise, and similar cases.

    When listing - use the little 25 cent pic for gallery - some people like pics. Also, always use BUY IT NOW when listing. At least half of my sales have been to impulse shoppers. You will always get your main action when item is first listed and within last 24-hrs. of auction end.

    Don't leave positive feedback for A-holes.

    Buy from bad spellers if they have 100% feedback, bid is low and item looks good. Everyone isn't a genius like us. image

    Remember that eBay time is for those weirdos in Californey - and adjust your end time to their schedule - altho weird - they do buy.
    image Just kidding Californey friends.

    Accommodate your customers, always be polite and always ship promptly. Do not ship item until checks have cleared bank. Altho since '99 I have never had a check bounce.

    Adjust your price for item to accommodate eBay, Paypal and USPS rip off fees. Don't bother selling items that use up your juice.

    Well that's all for now - I am heading for food.

    ps. just remembered a few more - Don't use bad or blurred photos for coins. It doesn't fool people. And don't enhance your photos either - we are on to you. Don't use LQQK in your title - it irritates people.





  • Oh! Last, but not least ------ if you really want it - snipe it - but make sure your highest bid is high enough, or plan to lose.

  • Lets hear some tips on selling! I've got one, for most, reserves aren't very attractive.image
    Scott Hopkins
    -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.

    My Ebay!
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't bid on anything from a Seller with less than 99.7 or 99.8 - even that makes me nervous. >>




    Know from whom you are buying! Feedback is something of a joke.

    Considering that about 5%+ of auctions end with non-paying bidders and those are all potential negs to the seller as extortion there must be smoething fishy with 99%+ feedback.

  • Feedback is something of a joke.

    Totally not true ebt!
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Rules you should know BEFORE buying coins on eBay
    One word- "Don't"

    Oh, come on.... Buying on ebay can definately be worth the risks, as long as you are intelligent about it and know what to look for/avoid..... Some of the nicest coins I have in my collection have come from ebay sales and have been better deals than ANYTHING I can find in a local coin store...

    I think the feedback issue is an interesting one...... in some ways it is meaningless, because I've seen terrible sellers with a nice percentage of positive feedback. Or you can have a great seller that's been negged many times by complete idiots... I think you have to read through all of the negatives and see how they "clump" together- are there many complaints about overgrading or coins not arriving/poor customer service? Then it may be time to reassess how much you're willing to lose on a bad ebay deal.....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • - Pricing - check out "Completed Listings" for items similar to yours in order to see what they sell for on average and maybe you can get an idea of what amount to start your auction at. I don't care for Reserve amounts; they tend to drive too many serious bidders away. You can start your auction/s higher than most people would but still slightly under the market. That is ofen times better than using a reserve or fixed price while accomplishing practically the same thing. Remember - if your item doesn't sell, it costs nothing to relist. My second time auctions usually sell. You can always lower the starting amount on the relisted auction.
    - Keep Records - You should keep accurate records, especially if you have very many auctions, so you'll know whose auction has been paid for and whose needs to be mailed, who gets what, etc. EBay has pages for keeping track of all that and is very helpful if you'll use it. It helps keep my feedback rating at 100%.
    - Duration - I like 3-day auctions. Most of my stuff are under $50 and listed over and over. I start at a respectable ending price, while still under market, so one bid is enough to satisfy me. If an item don't sell I usually have good success at relisting. Anything over 3-days is a waste of my time. Anything under 3-days and I don't do as well. You want to pick up "watchers", especially if your item is pricey and the more time you use the more watchers you pick up. If you have a high priced item, you should use at least a 7-day auction.
    - Have Fun - If you can come up with a "gimmick" maybe people will send it to other people to see. I've seen some very funny and enterttaining auctions that generated many more bids than usual simply because they get emailed around as entertainment.
    - There's more, but I have spent my bankroll here already. Good luck with your auctions everyone and Happy Christmas Shopping! image
    image Monster Wavy Steps Rule! - 1999, WSDDR-015, 1999P-1DR-003 - 2 known
    My EBay Store/Auctions
  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,364 ✭✭✭
    A few Tips for sellers (i've been on ebay 5+ years, have over 1000 feedback and a 100% rating):

    1. Good pictures (especially toned coins).

    2. Pick your title so there are searchable keywords. You want people to find your item. I never scroll thru a category - its all about searching. If the item is toned, say tone or toned or toning as someone like me will search by ton* and it will pickup any of those versions of the word.

    3. If the item is slabbed, put the holder and grade in the listing title.

    4. Personally, I like the gallery option - yes, its $.15 cents more but a picture when your searching is KEY and will cause someone to click and read your listing.

    5. Specify your shipping and insurance upfront....no matter whether its $10 or $1.

    6. If you're selling raw coins, please try to be upfront about the condition - there's nothing worse than a receiving damaged coin (whizzed, cleaned, bent, scratched, dinged) etc when the seller says its a "no problem coin".

    7. End auctions at a time whn people are available to bid. Ending an auction at 4am eastern, 1am pacific is dicey at best. I personally like Sunday's about 6:15pm pacific (9:15 eastern). You want people to be available to bid - we've all missed auctions ourselves because it was mid afternoon or we were sitting down to dinner or......

    8. Try to treat others as you would like them to treat you. people ask stupid questions sometimes - do not reply with smartass answers...respond in a polite and eductional sense. people appreciate being forthright. Be as professional as you can.

    9. Keep people informed. I send emails to mu buyers when I sent their items.....there's no guessing - they KNOW their item is in route.

    10 Be prompt. Your auction ends Sunday night at 6:15pm, a buyer pays at 7PM - - get the package ready to go. Check PayPal again about 10pm and again about 7pm on Monday morning before you go to the PO. (east coast payers). Ship fast, email status and you'll get rave reviews and ++++ feedback. Hey, its customer service at work!
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
  • I send emails to mu buyers

    See now - tlhoy wouldn't buy from you. Altho maybe typo and spelling is two different animals. I know that I make typos myself - altho it does look bad in auctions.

    Maybe 3 days auctions are great for coins - but for some items - 10 days is great, as it gives more people, more time to see your item - AND it encompasses two full weekends.

  • Sit down with a cup of tea and read the MBT thread?

    Billy image
  • Don't buy wheat cents from the 50 gallon barrelimage
  • Watch out for fake emails from ebay and paypal asking for info. ALWAYS go through their site no matter what.......

    no matter what.......image

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