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Not Holdered, Evidence Of Trimming

AAARGH!

Okay, here's a question: How frequently is PSA WRONG when they say this? Ever?

I submitted a gorgeous '61 Aaron that looked just fine to me in every respect; I thought I'd get an 8 or perhaps an 8OC. Grades were posted today for the submission that this was a part of, and I got the dreaded "Evidence of Trimming".

I know that these older cards sometimes have looser tolerances with respect to size. Anyone know about the '61s?

Am I toast?

-Al

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  • DaBigHurtDaBigHurt Posts: 1,066 ✭✭
    No, it doesn't mean you're toast. I've had numerous cards that were cracked out of previous holders because I didn't agree with the grade (modern cards that came back a PSA 8 that COULD NOT have been trimmed because I pulled them out of packs myself) that came back 'Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming'. I resubmitted the cards again and low and behold, they came back in PSA 9s and 8s. Welcome to the fabulous world of 'professional authentication'. image
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  • DaBigGuy is all over this one. I agree completely. I doubt whether anyones opinion will differ.


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  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    I, too, have had cards that I personally pulled straight from packs come back as "Evid. Trim". It's more likely than not a better safe than sorry approach by PSA. If they have any doubts, they reject.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Look at the card closely. Compare it to another of the set. For me running my finger over the edges helps to feel any "waves" or uneveness. When it passes all these tests, send it in again and it will grade. Every single time.
    PS- when it does don't think you get the original fee back, it's only an "opinion"

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • New to the board here, what is the best way to crack open PSA graded cards?

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Lou
    Working on the following raw centered EX+ to EX/MT sets:
    1955 Topps Set - 92% Complete
    1956 Topps Set - 100% Complete
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    To crack, just use pliers to break off a piece of plastic from the upper left or right corner (next to the label). Once you can fit a small flathead screwdriver tip between the pieces of plastic, just hold the slab down firmly on a flat surface and twist the flat edge of the screw driver; off the label if needed to. It doesn't take much strength... you will see the plastic seam separate, then just go around the edges with the screwdriver (insert and twist) and it'll open right up. Make sure you open it completely before trying to remove the card.
  • Thanks for the feedback about my situation.
    Working on the following raw centered EX+ to EX/MT sets:
    1955 Topps Set - 92% Complete
    1956 Topps Set - 100% Complete
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's



  • << <i>AAARGH!

    Okay, here's a question: How frequently is PSA WRONG when they say this? Ever?

    I say 33% of the time!

    live each day like it's your last but don't count on it!
  • Now I'm even MORE angry - I got the card back from PSA yesterday.

    I can see what they're saying. I can't find my pica ruler, but in comparison with the rest of my 1961 set, it does seem slightly more narrow. This really bums me out - because I didn't notice it sooner, because it is a REALLY nice example of the card, AND because I may have gotten scammed!

    Drag.

    -Al
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