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Will Urban be the next coach at ND?

IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
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Sounds to me like he must of said yes for them to have fired Willingham at this juncture. Rumors have it that he was close to making a decision elsewhere so they had no choice.

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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Rumors have it that he was close to making a decision elsewhere so they had no choice. >>

    yup.
    Sportstalk in the south has Florida pushing
    him hard, but Urban evidently always wanted
    to coach at ND... They wanted him and could not
    risk not getting him.

    I just hope they know what they are doing.
    Willingham would have been a great coach if
    they had given him time.
    Urban is the "hot-now" coach of the moment,
    just like Willingham was when he was at Stanford...
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Willingham would have been a great coach if they had given him time

    Jeff - we agree on something!!!!! image
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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Willingham would have been a great coach if they had given him time

    Jeff - we agree on something!!!!! image >>

    and he still will be a great coach...
    just now, it will be at some other school

    (I am hearing either Washington or maybe Stanford again...)

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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    I have heard that he was already talking to Washington, which was the nail in the coffin other than the SC loss. I do not think that ND was ever truly comfortable with Ty, especially the boosters.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Did anyone see that USC game? I don't watch a lot of ND football but Ty just looked like an idiot in that game. They
    had a chance to go up on USC, they are at the 10 yard line and moving at will and the biff calls a time out and
    runs some stupid play. The game was over right then. This guy couldn't call a great play if the defense had
    only 2 players on the field. You have to have smarts to win games and even more to go 9-2 10-1 every year. 6-5
    doesn't cut it, I don't care what color your skin is!

    Remember when beating Tenn and Michigan actually meant something?

    JS

  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Joe, your comments about the SC are correct, but let me add that they also managed to drop two passes, which is something they have been doing for the past two years. You have to ask yourself is it the players of lack of proper coaching technique. I'd like someone to explain to me what Willingham has done in his coaching career that he deserves the title of great coach.

    He has recruited two classes at ND, which according to the so-called experts and their play on the field were very poor classes over all. How is the the alumni, the boosters or the folks at ND who run the college at fault for that? What would two more years have done? I will tell you based on what he has done, two more poor classes. Unlike previous coaches at ND he never made a committment to become part of the community, to embrace what ND stands for outside of the student athlete. He never made a concerted effort to become part of the ND community.

    Here is a comment he made about his lack of offensive output, "It takes 2-2.5 years for a quarterback in my system to master it." Think about that, this isn't the pros where you can sign a player for many years, this is college they average 4 years at ND. This means the quarterback has at most 1-1.5 years to be successful. How do you attract a kid to play quarterback when he sits till half-way through his junior year. There are so many kids playing out of position, so much stupid play calling as already mentioned. Some coaches just can't coach on Saturday, especially when it gets tough. This cost Davie his job.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    I am an Irish fan, and I try to get out there once a year. Notre Dame seems to have become complacent on recruiting and seems to rely solely on "Hey, we're ND" to get recruits in the door. That cannot happen anymore.
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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    1420, they realized that for a long time, but you still have to sell the college and they have a lot to sell. Neither Davie or Willingham who both are great guys came off as dyed in the wool ND rah rah guys. Davie constantly talked about his former coach at A&M and never seemed to be able to cut the ties and take charge. Willingham, many believe took the job primarily to show that a black coach could reach the top of his profession. He never showed the zeal that an ND coach must to recruit. He and his family never acted liked they cared to be here. Two weeks ago Washington contacted Ty about their job. I doubt they would have done that if signals hadn't been sent to them.
  • zsz70zsz70 Posts: 541 ✭
    My guess is that most of the academia at Notre Dame
    threatened to blow the whistle on the program in the
    early 90's if recruiting standards didn't change.

    With all the tradition and money at ND, there can be
    no other reason.

    I seriously doubt the Catholic Church scandals had any
    adverse affect on the football program.
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