does pcgs grade coins that were cleaned maybe 30 years ago?

cary1952

just curious.

techeff

No, and it doesn't matter how long ago it was cleaned.

Gonfunko

<< <i>No, and it doesn't matter how long ago it was cleaned. >>


Not quite true. They will occasionally grade early 1800s and 1700s coins that have been lightly cleaned long ago, since most such coins have been cleaned.

coinbuf

That depends what you call cleaned. If you mean dipped then yes unless it's been overdipped and impaired. If you have a coin with more aggressive cleaning then most likely no.

Chris

michael

yes most of waht they grade is cleaned but gently well hopefully for the most part any hairlines proof coin has been cleaned

and the older lets say for example bust dollars can get into

holders whereas a more recent coin if cleaned as harshly as lets say a specific bust dollar would never get into a holder


michael

cladking

It doesn't so much matter to collectors or the services if a coin has been cleaned. It matters
if it looks like it's been cleaned. They are not forgiving on later coins that look even a little like
they've been cleaned.

samingeorgia

I'm glad you asked that question!
About 45 years ago when I started collecting, conventional wisdom was that you could clean a silver coin with a little dab of toothpaste and water. I did that with some and they looked brand new. Now they sort of look dull gray, and I read on here that any type of abrasive would hurt the smooth finish give to the coin by the mint strike, and create small "pits" or "streaks" so to speak. I don't feel too bad about it because what I collected was basically from pocket change - no real rare dates - so they just basically fill in slots in a Whitman album.
I'd sure be angry at myself if I had done this to anything real rare or AU or better.
As I look at coins now in person and on the bay, I can see that some people apparently have taken sandpaper or something to their coins and they look like - well, you know. Some of this damage looks pretty recent, too!!!

morgannut2

As long as there are no sandpaper marks, most will grade if minted before 1805. However deep cuts, rust holes and severe lines are also OK with most 1792 coinage worth more than $250,000 IF NGC might grade it if PCGS refuses. Do not however expect any brown or golden envelope- toned Morgans directly from a UNITED STATES FEDERAL RESERVE bank bag to come back except as no-grade "questionale color". Most original Morgans must be dipped first, which is not considered cleaning, except by many collectors.

tradedollarnut

Nah - all those Farouk rarities were just dipped!

RYK

Nah - all those Farouk rarities were just dipped!



Aren't those die polish lines?

tradedollarnut

morgannut2

STOP SANDING YOUR TOTAL POP-5 TRADE DOLLARS---TDN!!!!!!

RYK

It almost looks like someone tried to play tic-tac-toe on that one. If that were an 1880 Trade proof, would it get holdered?

RYK

STOP SANDING YOUR TOTAL POP-5 TRADE DOLLARS---TDN!!!!!!

Funny thing about the 1884 Trade: there were 10 minted, and it is a pop 15 coin!

1907Quarter

ouch!

cucamongacoin

Without a doubt, PCGS "net grades" coins that have been cleaned, but without saying so on the holder.
However, I think this is very selective as well as subjective, and is limited to early (pre civil war?) coins.
Also, pre 1936 proofs seem to have their own set of grading standards, as the huge majority are hairlined to one degree or another.

Boom

Dam that's ugly and you're saying that that POS made it into a PCGS slab?