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Why Tampa Bay is still a very dangerous team......
zsz70
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One of the sad facts about college and pro football is
the fact that todays athletes are some of the worst
blockers and tacklers.
John Gruden is a master teacher at blocking schemes
and tackling techniques. He doesn't have to have the
greatest athletes, but he can take decent athletes
and teach them how to be excellent players.
Todays tackling techniques downright stink compared
to great players like Jack Ham, Jack Lambert, and Lee Roy Jordan.
These guys weren't big, but would PUNISH you with their
balance and drive in the tackle.
Tampa Bay is very well coached, i.e. old school, and I would
refrain from mouthing off against them. The very reason
Mike Vick does not do well against Tampa Bay is because
Tampas defense does not make the fundamental mistakes
that other poor defenses make.
Also, Tampa Bays offense had NO TALENT when they won
the Super Bowl. Brad Johnson and Keyshawn Johnson are
not Hall of Famers like Bradshaw and Swann, but John Gruden
took these average players and did great things with them.
They aren't even close to Aikman and Irvin.
I would watch out for Tampa Bay. I would also watch
out for New England. They are getting tougher each week.
I said I think Indy would make it to the Super Bowl, but NE
might wup em up if they meet them.
the fact that todays athletes are some of the worst
blockers and tacklers.
John Gruden is a master teacher at blocking schemes
and tackling techniques. He doesn't have to have the
greatest athletes, but he can take decent athletes
and teach them how to be excellent players.
Todays tackling techniques downright stink compared
to great players like Jack Ham, Jack Lambert, and Lee Roy Jordan.
These guys weren't big, but would PUNISH you with their
balance and drive in the tackle.
Tampa Bay is very well coached, i.e. old school, and I would
refrain from mouthing off against them. The very reason
Mike Vick does not do well against Tampa Bay is because
Tampas defense does not make the fundamental mistakes
that other poor defenses make.
Also, Tampa Bays offense had NO TALENT when they won
the Super Bowl. Brad Johnson and Keyshawn Johnson are
not Hall of Famers like Bradshaw and Swann, but John Gruden
took these average players and did great things with them.
They aren't even close to Aikman and Irvin.
I would watch out for Tampa Bay. I would also watch
out for New England. They are getting tougher each week.
I said I think Indy would make it to the Super Bowl, but NE
might wup em up if they meet them.
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later. Dudley, a key to the offense, out of the season a few games later. Alstott has been out for a few
weeks and Kennan was a hold out.
I ask you this:
Take away your top reciever, your starting RB and FB, your starting TE and put in your 3rd string QB....how many
games are you gonna win?
The bucs have been in all but one of the games they lost. They played Denver down to the wire and held Seattle
to 10 points. The Rams at full power needed the refs and bad reviews to win at their place and Vick needed to
be saved several times by the zebras.
Im expecting NO sympathy here, football is a mans sports and if yout guys can't stay healthy then they are
worth a darn. Personally some of John's off season pickups have been complete duds. We are getting it done
with the buc core..Joe J and Pittman on offense and an always great defense.
Of course we all know that means squat if you can't go out and win. We will and we are going to rattle some
heads in the playoffs!
You all better watch out! Cowgirls and Giants have faded, the Vikes are only a few games ahead. No one wants
to see the buc d in the playoffs!
I would like to say thanks this mid-season to all the real fans who have stuck by and have been here week after
week. It has been easier for some than others to accept a butt kicking, and others just don't show up. Its easy to talk
before the season but you gotta back it up week after week. Those who jump the wagon know who you are!
It should be a great finish!
GO BUCS
JS
Dangerous? - No
TB is 4-6. Of their 6 remaining games, TB will be favored in 5 of them, but only 2 are easy (Carolina and New Orleans @ TB), 3 games they'll be a slight fav (@ Caro, Atl @ TB and @ Arz), and they'll be a modest dog @ SD.
The NFC East doesn't present a problem as there's only 1 playoff team, but the North and West could each have 2 teams going. If the Bucs go 9-7 (5-1 in their remaining games), that would be a tremendous accomplishment, but it still might not be enough as the Rams and Seahawks both beat the Bucs, and the Packers and Vikings could both go 10-6.
Brian
We owned TO in the playoffs and then we owned McNad in the playoffs...do you really think that Pinkston and
Mitchell are going to make the difference? LOL
According to my stats you all won't play a team with a winning record until the playoffs. You won't know what
hit you when you finally play that game. You know if its the bucs you all are gone!
You have also been VERY lucky with injuries...remember that! Actually ask Vikes fan how that works.
JS
here is another fact about Tampa Bay.
When they beat Philadelphia in the playoffs on the way
to the Super Bowl, Philly fans and players walked out of
the stadium totally confused that they couldn't accomplish anything
against that no-name Buc team.
The players and fans thought Philadelphia would win by at least
a touchdown if not more. But all Tampa Bay did all night was
totally frustrate them with great technique on defense, and
simple blocking schemes and quick passes on offense.
As each quarter passed, the Philly fans kept waiting for
McNabb to light it up. It never happened because Gruden
totally outcoached the other side.
This isn't a knock against the Eagles, but a praise at how
well John Gruden schools his players in every aspect of
the game. Todays player wants to spend too much time
in the weight room and autograph room instead of the
"technique room". John Gruden keeps them in the
"technique room" all day long. He has some of the smartest
players in the league because they are well coached.
If Tampa Bay gets healthy, they will be very dangerous.
I would not want to face them if they are in the playoffs.
Hey I'm very familiar with Gruden - he was the Eagles offensive coordinator for I think it was three seasons. Gruden is a very clever guy no doubt about it. Gruden is smarter than Andy Reid but not a better head coach. Andy Reid is definitely a better head coach than Gruden. Gruden never seems to get the full respect of his players which is essential for a head coach to have a successful long term football program. Look at all the extremely successful NFL head coaches from Lombardi to Shula, Walsh, Noll, Landry, etc. They were all disciplinarians who the players maybe didn't always like, but they deeply respected these coaches and gave it all on the field for them. I'm not saying Reid is close to that category of those guys yet, but Reid has similar traits to them. Gruden does not have these traits. So Gruden has no long term future as a head coach. Gruden is really better suited to be an offensive coordinator or possibly a GM.
I have heard of bunting in baseball being considered a lost art. Tackling in football a lost art????
I ain't buyin ...
Gruden is arguably one of the greatest QB coaches ever, turning players who are supposedly past their prime into the best they've ever been (read: Brad Johnson anyone? how about Rich Gannon?)
but they barely lost to the Super Bowl runners up! how many rings do the Eagles and Vikes have! the Bucs will still make the playoffs!
With the logic of JS - he'll probably say the Bucs have a chance to make the playoffs even after they get mathematically eliminated.