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how about some input from the franklin pro's on this 53-S

Kind of hard to tell with the toning but it is a better date. mike image
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    • I don't think it will go FBL.


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    • I'd say shoot a couple diff angle shots on that one mike. Than lemme take another look. As it stands from that shot....Nope

      Chris
    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      Looks pretty good for a 53-S. If you look hard enough through the toning it looks good in person- not like a 48 but by far the best 53-S I have had or seen. mike
    • I thought maybe it would be the 53-S. The strike on that baby is weak(Pass and stow)....as the 53-S should be. Just to the left of the Crack has me stumped as far as FBL. What do ya think it will make mike? 64-65?

      I'm kinda curious of what the obverse looks like.

      Chris
    • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
      I think it's close, but not quite there--especially if it's a key date. They will really want those lines, since the price really, really jumps with them.

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    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      The obverse has the same hazy toned surface but pretty much mark free- I would expect to get a 65 at PCGS. mike
    • Looks nice towards the right side... I see a little flatness on the very left of the lines though. Double check there and look at it closely... it may just be the angle (I know how that can be), but it looks a little weak there on the very left towards the top of the lines...
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    • Very cool coin mike.

      Chris
    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      Just wishful thinking on my part or do I have a shot? image
    • beautiful coin, a 65 for sure, FBL can go either way.
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    • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      Here's the obverse. mike
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      • Mikey - due to the grade guarantee - unless it's a no brainer FBL - I doubt if you'd get it - nice coin though image
      • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
        What about this PCGS MS65FBL tat sold for something like $16,000 at Heritage? I think I like my bell lines betterimage..........I know I know in person it has very clear bell lines.... but does it? mike
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        • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
          Sorry don't think it will make FBL. image
        • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭
          From what I can see from your pic, that does not loook like the PCGS '53-S FBLs I've seen. Also, from what I can see from your pic, the gaps on the left side easily keep it from FBL. Still much better than many '53-Ss.

          Do you have more pics, or does the current pic accurately capture the bell lines on the left?
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        • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
          Thanks Foodude! The toning is kind of thick in that area. If I hold the coin at certain angles I think I can see the lines through the toning but not real strong by any means then again the PCGS coin I pictured from Heritage looks like it needs some strong imagination as well. I'll try to get some more pics. mike image
        • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
          Bell line pic from a different angle.
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          • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
            Excellent strike for a 53-S. You don't normally see such strong upper bell lines. Looks more like a 53-P strike (sure there's an S up there?) The upper lines are obviously much stronger than the Heritage coin you posted, but PCGS tends to focus on the lower set.

            You can see your lines on the left run up to the crack. The area you can't see is through the toning on the middle lower left. If you think you can see the lines running through the toning, definately take a shot!
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          • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
            Here's the whole reverse.image
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            • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
              the pics may be difficult to tell...darn close.
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            • foodudefoodude Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭
              Still hard to tell from the pic. When viewing the actual coin ....? So the area on the left where there are no lines in the pic is toning? Can you see through the toning? If you are having trouble, try a halogen light source. In the end, the graders would need to see the lines thorugh the toning.
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            • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
              Looks pretty close to me.

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