My New 1935 Connecticut: What a great design! Grade Revealed

Baley · November 20, 2004 6:09AM

Just received this coin, can't stop looking at it! Love the stylized tree with the oversized leaves, and the reverse bears one of my favorite representations of an eagle on any coin. Been wanting one of these for a while, took a long time to find the "right" coin for me. What do you think of this piece? Grade opinions?

Well, looks like this one stumped the forum

Grade revealed on page 2..

Louis · November 20, 2004 6:16AM

Nice, 66.

XpipedreamR · November 20, 2004 6:40AM

My favorite commem. I'll guess 66. Very nice look, especially the reverse/

wam98 · November 20, 2004 6:57AM

Never graded a commem. before but that one has to be above 65. Pretty

keets · November 20, 2004 7:07AM

hey Baley

that looks like a lock at MS66 with nice luster, clean fields and an abscence of any visible contacts on the eagle. the strike looks a bit less than full but still nice. i once found a coin that had a gold tone which made the leaves look like late autumn!!!!

al h.

rainbowroosie · November 20, 2004 7:09AM

AU 58......only fooling....nice coin with a 66 look

lava · November 20, 2004 7:15AM

I'm with you Baley, I LOVE Connecticut's Comm, and your coin is super. I think I thought I saw that on the market recently (or one like it). The toning by the beak sticks in my mind. Anyway, I don't know the difference between 65 and 66 for one of these, but this one is super and looks all of 66. For that matter, I'm not sure what else this sucker needs to go 67.

It would have been cool if those coins came in proof. I'd love a Conn. Comm. proof.

beartracks42 · November 20, 2004 8:02AM

It looks like a brother/sister to one I bought today in a NGC65 holder, so I will say it is a 65.

CarlWohlforth · November 20, 2004 8:06AM

Looks great from here! I'd guess 66 but would to 67 if you told me it had a thick original skin and booming luster.

Baley · November 20, 2004 9:07AM

Wow, you guys are making me feel pretty good about this purchase, thanks for your comments!

(I'll reveal the grade that's on the holder once someone guesses it correctly

)

cosmicdebris · November 20, 2004 9:11AM

Looks like a great MS66 with some nice rim toning. CT is my favorite.

XpipedreamR · November 20, 2004 9:12AM

<< <i>Wow, you guys are making me feel pretty good about this purchase, thanks for your comments!

(I'll reveal the grade that's on the holder once someone guesses it correctly

) >>

OK, make that a PQ 64

coinfreak499 · November 20, 2004 9:58AM

Great commen

Louis · November 20, 2004 10:01AM

It's a 64

mgoodm3 · November 20, 2004 10:04AM

That's nice.

Gemini · November 20, 2004 10:59AM

Nice clean satiny surfaces with a violet tinge of toning on the rims...a pretty coin

LanLord · November 20, 2004 11:10AM

Nice, I like that design quite a bit. But then I pretty much like all the classic commems.

Coinhusker1 · November 20, 2004 11:16AM

Gotta get me one of those --- my home state!!! The Charter Oak is super cool -- both on this coin and on the 1999 quarter!!!

LindeDad · November 20, 2004 11:19AM

Pretty and since no said it I'll guess 68.

1907Quarter · November 20, 2004 11:23AM

wow, that really looks super-will it replace something in the Dansco?

kryptonitecomics · November 20, 2004 11:34AM

MS65....if it's any lower....the picture is hiding a lot

MFH · November 20, 2004 12:36PM

I can't see anything that would preclude a grade of MS 66. In fact, if the pictures are at all accurate it could 67. Nice thick luster. Great design too.

Ok, Baley, give it up...what's its certified grade ?

roadrunner · November 20, 2004 12:36PM

Seems to be some chatter on the wing/shoulder area so my first thought was 64...but I can see the Forum is leaning much higher.
65 would be the tops. Most CT's are 64 or 65. It's a nice design.
Most have had mottled uglyish toning and have been dipped. Attractive orig colors, especially colorful ones, are pretty tough.

roadrunner

lava · November 20, 2004 3:43PM

<< <i>MS65....if it's any lower....the picture is hiding a lot

>>

That's my opinion. If you are suggesting that it is not 65 or 66, and I detect a hint of something less, it is not apparent from the images. Maybe resubmit this sucker, or sell it to me.

Actually submitting can be a real big hassle -- thing more about selling it to me.

Baley · November 20, 2004 4:37PM

Thanks again for all your nice remarks about this coin, the grade revealed:

I think they were a little tough on this coin, I feel it is a strong 64 with claims to 65 for nice luster and surfaces, however there is a hairline below TRUST, a few light reed marks well hidden in the tree, as well as one more prominent reed mark on the eagle's wing that kind of blends into the feathers, you can see it a little better in this shot:

Bear · November 20, 2004 6:56PM

That has to be the all time finest MS-63 in creation.

Gemini · November 20, 2004 8:03PM

Baley I don't care what they graded this nice coin at and to me those are picayune flaws that don't bother me even after you have pointed them out...they seem to blend in well or are nicely hidden...I could live happily with this coin ever after and I'd gladly pay MS 63 money for it.

ms70 · November 20, 2004 8:06PM

From the pics, that coin is no less than a 65 on a bad day.

Cam40 · November 20, 2004 8:11PM

anacs murdered you on that commem.
i,d send it to NGC or PCGS for a second opinion.

tgilliams · November 20, 2004 11:04PM

a lock on a 65, but oh so close on a 66. may still make a 66, because of the great eye appeal.

braddick · November 20, 2004 11:23PM

I've got to go with the BEAR on this one.

Absolutely original and likable even in an upper grade!

No apology coin with definite claims.
Nice catch!

roadrunner · November 20, 2004 11:28PM

Baley, is that an older ANACS graded holder with the gold foil seal on the reverse? You can still find lots of those out there that are graded far tougher than current NGC and PCGS standards.

roadrunner

MFH · November 21, 2004 3:05AM

Baley,

I had to use a magnifying glass on my computer screen to see the reed mark. The fields are so clean its hard to grade a coin like that by its image. I didn't see anything hidden in the tree but I'll take your word for it.

I'd send it into PCGS raw and expect at least a 64 if not a 65 to come back. Nice find !

kryptonitecomics · November 21, 2004 3:06AM

I'd be happy I got a coin that nice in a 63 holder and I would crack it out and submit it to PCGS........an MS64 should be a lock, and a 65 should be possible, but not guaranteed

Baley · November 21, 2004 8:02AM

It appears to be a recent ANACS holder, but it wasn't me who submitted it, so in a sense, I was the one who benefitted by the conservative grade (because the price was commensurate). My intention is to just leave it be and enjoy it for a while, but may someday get another TPG opinion if/when I decide to sell.

Funny thing, though, and this came up in another recent thread: used to be, the grade on a slab represented the minimum guaranteed grade of the coin, and some opinions of the grade could indeed be higher, but you could be pretty sure it wasn't lower.

Nowadays, with the advent of the "crack and resubmit" mentality, the slabbed grade is percieved to mean the maximum grade one could justify awarding to a coin, and more and more, sometimes some people think the actual grade of the coin IS lower than the certified grade.

At this rate, someday all coins will be "maxed out" in their holders. Nice to know we're not there yet

roadrunner · November 21, 2004 9:51AM

Newly submitted coins are continually coming back with conservative grades. Out of say 10 coins submitted to PCGS, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 or 3 of them came back at the lowest possible grade they could ever achieve. Those are the ones we would all like to buy. ANACS and NGC do the same thing.

roadrunner

Baley · December 30, 2004 9:36AM

I guess I'll TTT this, just because I just posted my other recent commems, a Bay Bridge and an Oregon.

lordmarcovan · December 30, 2004 9:40AM

Sweet. I'd have guessed higher than 63.

LucyBop · December 30, 2004 10:16AM

I love that design also, nice coin hepcat.

morganbarber · December 30, 2004 11:04AM

I hate to grade from a photo, but it definately looks 65-66. It is my favorite non-Morgan coin. I find it odd that you like that eagle so much though. To me, the Charter Oak is the best single coin side in history.