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1777,The 22th Denmark "Piastre" Found in Suzhou China???

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  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    This is "ISLAN"image
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesiting. I'm mailing a coin out to Suzhou, China tomorrow.

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    Don
  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    xixi!
    Have you coin friend in Suzhou China?
    robzhang1977
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the Darkside, Rob!! Are you from China?

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  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    Yes,I'm from China.Suzhou!imageimage
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rob1977, I sold a coin to someone in Suzhou, China

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    'Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery'

    CU #3245 B.N.A. #428


    Don
  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
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  • tbirde56tbirde56 Posts: 2,161
    Unfortunately, any coins being sold from China are generally looked at with suspicion and assumed to be counterfeits until proven otherwise these days. It's unfortunate that even genuine items get little serious attention.
    Brad Swain

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  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    Yes,In China ,Have too many counterfeits in market.So put this coin's picture up here.
    What's suspicion with this coin???Thanks!!image
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  • syraqsyraq Posts: 633
    Suspicion I wouldn't know, but there seems to be a tiny hole/dig on the reverse, a little higher than the centre. As if someone used a compass! image

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    -or I've been drawing too many plans lately and I see compasses in my dreams image-
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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Is it a legitimate sea-salvaged coin? Possibly. In the scans, the obverse color looks somehow off. Maybe it's real, and maybe it isn't. There's no way I can tell from the scans, and possibly not even if I had it in hand. Sorry to not be of help.

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    Thanks a lots!
    This coin must be send to ANACS &PCGS!HAHA
    robzhang1977
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Good one!


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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • MadMuffinMadMuffin Posts: 468 ✭
    I'll have a look in the Danish catalog to compare the dies. At first glance the coin would seem to be real but I would be very sceptic. This is a very scarce coin and it was not struck for trade with China. It may of course have found its way there in other ways. Do you have the exact weight of it?

    Welcome to the boards!

    Marcel (from Denmark)

    Ebay user name: 00MadMuffin00
  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    Dear Muffin:
    Thanks. This coin's weight is 26.8g.
    Do you have another pictures of this coin form Denmark.
    If impossible,Mail the pictures to my E-Mail.
    robzhang1977@hotmail.com
    robzhang1977
  • MadMuffinMadMuffin Posts: 468 ✭
    First of all I have to correct myself. I thought the coin was only struck for trade with India, in fact it was used all over south Asia and probably in China as well. Although the mintage was fairly large the coin is very scarce today.

    Two dates exist: 1771, stuck in Copenhagen (Denmark) and 1777, struck in Kongsberg (Norway). The coins have the same design and as Norway was part of Denmark at the time they can both be considered Danish. The Krause catalog lists them under Greenland. This is absolute rubbish, they have nothing what so ever to do with Greenland image

    There is a picture of the 1777 coin here: link Unfortunately I have not been able to find any info in English, but at least the picture is decent. I will try and get a scan from a Danish catalog for you as well.

    The weight seems correct and the die appears to be similar to the coin that is pictured in the Danish catalog. I would still be careful about whether this coin is genuine, but who knows - it might just be. Is it from a wreck? Perhaps the wreck was a Danish ship?

    Marcel
    Ebay user name: 00MadMuffin00
  • Rob1977Rob1977 Posts: 10
    Thanks a lots!
    robzhang1977
  • RobertchinaRobertchina Posts: 2
    good ONE!
    Welcome to Suzhou!!CHINA
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