1980 Ricky Henderson Rookie Error Card

milbroco

I saw some recent posts about the Fred Stanley yellow variation for this year and I thought I would post this picture of a 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson rookie card. It appears to be missing the yellow ink as the green locations on the correct version are blue and if yellow is added to blue it would make green. Anyway, does anybody know what this may be worth?
Thanks,
bob

mudflap02

To me, that looks like it may just be a faded card. From the scan, it looks like the yellow is there, but just really faint ie his jersey looks a different color than his pants- could be the scan though. If it really is a variation, the market for niche collectors like that isn't as big as you would think. If you can find the right buyer, it could be worth a ton, but it's finding the buyer that can be tough.

Allen

I think it looks faded aswell, but if you pulled it or something then I guess it is a variation. Like he said, if you find the right guys and start a bid war the sky is the limit.

pandrews

I think it's faded.. I've seen and owned several that looked similar to that..

Stone193

Bob
I agree with you that the yellow ink is missing which would account for the blue instead of green - kinda brings me back to 9th grade art class. If this was, in fact, a pull - you could say variation - I'm inclined to believe that the card got by the inspectors and is not faded and a mistake.
Value? Don't know.
Your friend
Mike

wlf3

it's definately just faded... i see a lot of the 70s-80s cards like this

milbroco

I would like to clarify that I did not pull this from a pack but bought it at a card show.

CADILLACN97

Looks more like a factory defect, instead of a variation. Like the printer started to run out of ink. A true variation would be a 69 mantle, printed with white or yellow letters, and the like. Topps, for sure, didn't mean for a card to be printed without green toning because it affects the whole card itself. But people will call it what they like, i would call it a PSA 7 (PD).
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MorrellMan

Sun faded, IMHO

milbroco

Thanks for everyones response. It seems the consensus is that it is faded. Please excuse my ignorance, but is it really possible? How could the sun fade just the yellow out of the green color and leave blue?

mudflap02

I'm no expert, but my opinion is that all the colors faded equally. The darker colors just leave more pigment to fade, as opposed to the lighter colors, which will appear to fade faster.

mudflap02

If you want to do a little experiment, take another 1980 A's card and stick it in a window for 2 weeks in the sun. You'll be amazed.

MRyanF

<< <i>If you want to do a little experiment, take another 1980 A's card and stick it in a window for 2 weeks in the sun. You'll be amazed. >>



Yup, I agree with this. Its definitely a fade job not a print defect. I don't think too many people will be knocking down your door for this one.

MorrellMan

This fade job took about 6 months of indirect sunlight. The faded card was top of the stack; the other was just beneath it:

milbroco

Hey Mark - Thanks for the scan. I guess my Henderson is the result of fading from sunlight. I wonder if the dealer that I bought this from sold at flea markets that was popular in the mid 1980's. No matter, I only paid $5.00 for it in the mid 1980's.

Allen

I had a few cards I had gotten in a big deal from a guy who did flea markets, they were faded and the toplaoders were solid yellow and bowed up. I always took special care to protect my cards when at flea markets and such.

Stone193

I'm with Bob on the question of how something fades...does the green fade to blue? I would assume that the yellow pigment is more susceptible to light and break down while the blue pigment resists the light?
Just curious - if that is not the case, the darker green should just become lighter green?
Any ink people/printers here?
your friend
Mike

DeutscherGeist

I am not convinced fading explains the card.

The yellow pigment is missing. The team mates in the background also lack yellow. The A's banner on the front of the card is blue...had there been yellow pigment from the printer, it would have been green. The yellow pigment is suppose to be used in different hues on the entire card. It really looks like the card was printed when the machinery lacked yellow pigments.

If there was fading, then the A's banner would have gone from green to light green, right? We don't have that here.

having yellow pigment would have made the card much richer in color. I think there might be a way to scan the card and play around with the image on the computer like strengthening the yellow hue and seeing what happens. I bet the colors become much more crisper as a result.

rbeaton

See this thread on The Effect of Light on PSA Graded Cards

Robert

phreakydancin

<< <i>I am not convinced fading explains the card.

The yellow pigment is missing. The team mates in the background also lack yellow. The A's banner on the front of the card is blue...had there been yellow pigment from the printer, it would have been green. The yellow pigment is suppose to be used in different hues on the entire card. It really looks like the card was printed when the machinery lacked yellow pigments.

If there was fading, then the A's banner would have gone from green to light green, right? We don't have that here.

having yellow pigment would have made the card much richer in color. I think there might be a way to scan the card and play around with the image on the computer like strengthening the yellow hue and seeing what happens. I bet the colors become much more crisper as a result. >>

I disagree... if you look at the Outfield banner in the top left, and also Rickey's jersey, they are clearly not white, but a very faded yellow. So it's not that the yellow was absent during the printing process, but rather that the yellow pigment has been bleached out, but not quite entirely.