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I woke up about 2 am this morning & couldn’t sleep so I checked my email and there was a want list notification from TeleTrade so I was checking out some coins when all of a sudden my puter started running real sloooooooow and my firewall alerted me that a new program was trying to access the internet. I usually run my firewall tight so hardly any cookies get through and it stripes out all the annoying flashing banner ads that’s in the free email services and cuts out the dancing chickens and dancing babies and stupid music from idiot sleazeBay auctions. But that slows my puter down a little having to deal with all that so I run my firewall wide open when I want to look at a lot of pictures real fast.
Something called 180ax.exe was trying to get to the internet. Then another one & another. I’d deny it access than another one would try then the same ones would try again. I was getting ticked off because my computer is MY computer, I own it, I control it, nobody else uses it and nobody else has any business putting programs on it and using up space on MY harddrive accessing the internet using internet access that I pay for.
I ran AdAware. “Congratulation! No spyware found.” Yeah right. Then I ran Spybot. Found several tracking cookies but that’s not unusual. Nothing else. I’m really getting ticked now because my spyware software isn’t doing what it’s supposed to do.
I do start/run/msconfig/startup and there they are, 180ax, loads.exe, & jetmf are running. Only 9 programs run on startup on my puter so anything new is quickly noticed by me. I google each program, nothing, Must be new spyware and nobody is discussing them on the internet yet. It takes my puter about 3 minutes to work every time I click on google and something called Search Assistant tries to access the internet everytime I click on something. I’m on a fast DSL connection that usually makes access instantly. Not just my internet is slow, everything on desktop is in slow motion too. I’m really getting pissed off now and wished I had just stayed in bed and not looked at any coins on TeleTrade. So I start looking around in the Windows folder and see the new programs, about 9 different new files, 180ax.exe, MediaMotor25.exe, launchurl.exe, medload.exe and their associate log files. So I google those. Ah-ha! There’s a message board where they are discussing Media Motor so I check it out. They recommend AdAware SE Personal, which is a new version of the old outdated useless AdAware. I go to download.com to get the new version. My computer is so frigged up now it downloads but won’t install, even after uninstalling the old AdAware. Then I look in the log file of the spyware:
New log session started.
180sa installing for the first time
00000000 calling reporting page : http://bis.180solutions.com/TrackedEvent.aspx?eid=5&mt=01E1DD27CE2C86C1740B46FE723D8B6B73298C184E0E9CF5FA4243A5D92834AF45&cur
partid=&curpid=&curdid=&newdid=1006 .SourceCWebEvent.cpp 156 180ax 5.12 1006
(That was the spyware calling home saying it was watching what I was doing on my computer. My firewall denied it access)
00000000 ad thread started .SourceCAdThread.cpp
00000000 ie monitor thread started .SourceCIEMonitor.cpp
adding add/remove programs entry:
(If I want anything added to my programs I’ll do it myself, thank you very much)
00000000 loading keywords from file
00000000 duid empty - not continuing
config has web stuff to do but there's no connection
(That’s because my firewall. good ole Zone Alarm Pro was doing it’s thing)
Timer expired. Now(4154094266) Begin(4123335370)
(Haha the spyware didn’t report anything on me)
new url : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MediaMotor25.exe&btnG=Google+Search
(That’s when I googled the spyware file name. It’s watching what I search for so it can give me related popups on my screen)
new url : http://forums.tomcoyote.org/index.php?showtopic=18867
(That was the message board discussing spyware. See, it’s spying on me)
new url : http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button
(That was when I downloaded the new AdAware)
new url : http://ads.com.com/mac-ad?CELT=ifc&SP=24&POS=100&NCAT=20:&CNET-SITE-ID=4&CNET-BRAND-ID=6
(Aint that nice! It’s configuring ads& popups for me on the AdAware download site!!)
00000000 duid empty - not continuing
00000000 Timer expired. Now(4154094746) Begin(4123335370)
config has web stuff to do but there's no connection
(Failure of the spyware to collect & report any useful information on me.)
AdAware won’t install and my puter is running like crap so I reboot. As it shuts down strange green stripe appears on the top of my screen & won’t go away (never seen that before) and my puter WON’T shut down.
I pull the plug on puter and restart it. Scandisk starts & crashes and puter freezes.
I pull the plug on puter again & restart it. Scandisks starts & crashes and puter freezes again.
I pull the plug again and same thing happens all over again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads. I have taskbar but no deskstop. I reboot puter and strange green stripe appears again and puter won’t shut down so I pull plug again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads this time but the spyware starts trying to access the internet and my firewall crashes.
I am really mad now and my eyes are bugging out of my head & I’m foaming at the mouth and something in my head is going “ping, ping, ping” and I’m saying “please God don’t let me have an aneurysm” cause I have high blood pressure anyway. I restart. It restarts properly this time but firewall crashes again.
I restart. It restarts properly this time and firewall loads properly but goes crazy with alerts from 3 different programs trying to access the internet.
I install the new AdAware and it installs properly but wants to update but my puter & internet is still running like slow motion dog crap and it won’t update.
Ran AdAware, it took about 5 minutes and it detects 153 spyware files and registry keys.
Click the delete button to delete spyware and AdAware promptly crashes and puter freezes. 3 finger ctrl/alt/del and puter goes beeeeep but nothing happens. Puter says beeeeeep.
I pull the plug on puter again & restart it. Scandisks starts & crashes and puter freezes again.
I pull the plug again and same thing happens all over again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads and everything is fine.
Well then I’ll do it the old fashioned way. Start/settings/control panel/remove programs. Only one spyware program is listed and I uninstall it. Get message saying to reboot to make uninstall complete. NO WAY in hell am I going to reboot again. Not right now anyway. Go to windows folder right click and arrange by date and delete everything created an hour ago.
Use a deleter program to delete the registry keys.
Run AdAware again. Takes 5 minutes again. Detects 109 spyware files and deletes then with no problem this time.
Reboot computer. No problems.
AdAware updates.
Run AdAware another 5 minutes and it detects 42 more spyware files that the un-updated version didn’t detect. Delete those.
Dump recycle bin, cookies, temp internet files, & cache run scandisk & defrag and reboot and everything is fine. Puter hasn’t ran this good in months.
Took 2 hours to fix it.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO DO THIS!!! ADVERTISING COMPANIES HAVE NO BUSINESS FRIGGING WITH MY COMPUTER!!
But AdAware is old and useless you have to have the new version AdAware SE Personal. I’ve used many spyware programs and so far it is the best. I am really disappointed in Spybot because it didn’t detect any files and gives you a false sense of security.
Something called 180ax.exe was trying to get to the internet. Then another one & another. I’d deny it access than another one would try then the same ones would try again. I was getting ticked off because my computer is MY computer, I own it, I control it, nobody else uses it and nobody else has any business putting programs on it and using up space on MY harddrive accessing the internet using internet access that I pay for.
I ran AdAware. “Congratulation! No spyware found.” Yeah right. Then I ran Spybot. Found several tracking cookies but that’s not unusual. Nothing else. I’m really getting ticked now because my spyware software isn’t doing what it’s supposed to do.
I do start/run/msconfig/startup and there they are, 180ax, loads.exe, & jetmf are running. Only 9 programs run on startup on my puter so anything new is quickly noticed by me. I google each program, nothing, Must be new spyware and nobody is discussing them on the internet yet. It takes my puter about 3 minutes to work every time I click on google and something called Search Assistant tries to access the internet everytime I click on something. I’m on a fast DSL connection that usually makes access instantly. Not just my internet is slow, everything on desktop is in slow motion too. I’m really getting pissed off now and wished I had just stayed in bed and not looked at any coins on TeleTrade. So I start looking around in the Windows folder and see the new programs, about 9 different new files, 180ax.exe, MediaMotor25.exe, launchurl.exe, medload.exe and their associate log files. So I google those. Ah-ha! There’s a message board where they are discussing Media Motor so I check it out. They recommend AdAware SE Personal, which is a new version of the old outdated useless AdAware. I go to download.com to get the new version. My computer is so frigged up now it downloads but won’t install, even after uninstalling the old AdAware. Then I look in the log file of the spyware:
New log session started.
180sa installing for the first time
00000000 calling reporting page : http://bis.180solutions.com/TrackedEvent.aspx?eid=5&mt=01E1DD27CE2C86C1740B46FE723D8B6B73298C184E0E9CF5FA4243A5D92834AF45&cur
partid=&curpid=&curdid=&newdid=1006 .SourceCWebEvent.cpp 156 180ax 5.12 1006
(That was the spyware calling home saying it was watching what I was doing on my computer. My firewall denied it access)
00000000 ad thread started .SourceCAdThread.cpp
00000000 ie monitor thread started .SourceCIEMonitor.cpp
adding add/remove programs entry:
(If I want anything added to my programs I’ll do it myself, thank you very much)
00000000 loading keywords from file
00000000 duid empty - not continuing
config has web stuff to do but there's no connection
(That’s because my firewall. good ole Zone Alarm Pro was doing it’s thing)
Timer expired. Now(4154094266) Begin(4123335370)
(Haha the spyware didn’t report anything on me)
new url : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MediaMotor25.exe&btnG=Google+Search
(That’s when I googled the spyware file name. It’s watching what I search for so it can give me related popups on my screen)
new url : http://forums.tomcoyote.org/index.php?showtopic=18867
(That was the message board discussing spyware. See, it’s spying on me)
new url : http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html?part=69274&subj=dlpage&tag=button
(That was when I downloaded the new AdAware)
new url : http://ads.com.com/mac-ad?CELT=ifc&SP=24&POS=100&NCAT=20:&CNET-SITE-ID=4&CNET-BRAND-ID=6
(Aint that nice! It’s configuring ads& popups for me on the AdAware download site!!)
00000000 duid empty - not continuing
00000000 Timer expired. Now(4154094746) Begin(4123335370)
config has web stuff to do but there's no connection
(Failure of the spyware to collect & report any useful information on me.)
AdAware won’t install and my puter is running like crap so I reboot. As it shuts down strange green stripe appears on the top of my screen & won’t go away (never seen that before) and my puter WON’T shut down.
I pull the plug on puter and restart it. Scandisk starts & crashes and puter freezes.
I pull the plug on puter again & restart it. Scandisks starts & crashes and puter freezes again.
I pull the plug again and same thing happens all over again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads. I have taskbar but no deskstop. I reboot puter and strange green stripe appears again and puter won’t shut down so I pull plug again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads this time but the spyware starts trying to access the internet and my firewall crashes.
I am really mad now and my eyes are bugging out of my head & I’m foaming at the mouth and something in my head is going “ping, ping, ping” and I’m saying “please God don’t let me have an aneurysm” cause I have high blood pressure anyway. I restart. It restarts properly this time but firewall crashes again.
I restart. It restarts properly this time and firewall loads properly but goes crazy with alerts from 3 different programs trying to access the internet.
I install the new AdAware and it installs properly but wants to update but my puter & internet is still running like slow motion dog crap and it won’t update.
Ran AdAware, it took about 5 minutes and it detects 153 spyware files and registry keys.
Click the delete button to delete spyware and AdAware promptly crashes and puter freezes. 3 finger ctrl/alt/del and puter goes beeeeep but nothing happens. Puter says beeeeeep.
I pull the plug on puter again & restart it. Scandisks starts & crashes and puter freezes again.
I pull the plug again and same thing happens all over again.
I pull the plug again and Scandisks starts but keeps restarting so I cancel it and Windows loads and everything is fine.
Well then I’ll do it the old fashioned way. Start/settings/control panel/remove programs. Only one spyware program is listed and I uninstall it. Get message saying to reboot to make uninstall complete. NO WAY in hell am I going to reboot again. Not right now anyway. Go to windows folder right click and arrange by date and delete everything created an hour ago.
Use a deleter program to delete the registry keys.
Run AdAware again. Takes 5 minutes again. Detects 109 spyware files and deletes then with no problem this time.
Reboot computer. No problems.
AdAware updates.
Run AdAware another 5 minutes and it detects 42 more spyware files that the un-updated version didn’t detect. Delete those.
Dump recycle bin, cookies, temp internet files, & cache run scandisk & defrag and reboot and everything is fine. Puter hasn’t ran this good in months.
Took 2 hours to fix it.
I SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO DO THIS!!! ADVERTISING COMPANIES HAVE NO BUSINESS FRIGGING WITH MY COMPUTER!!
But AdAware is old and useless you have to have the new version AdAware SE Personal. I’ve used many spyware programs and so far it is the best. I am really disappointed in Spybot because it didn’t detect any files and gives you a false sense of security.
Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.
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If I look at startup in msconfig, how do I know what's crap and what needs to stay? I've always wondered about that...
42/92
Was the program placed by Teletrade or attached to their email as a spider in infectware?
Peaceman, while I understand you are upset about your issue with TT it does not give you the right to constantly disparage them on an open forum. We have had nothing but good experiences with TT over the past two years both in buying, selling and even returning coins. PM me and I will send you the email for Paul Song, VP sales....I am sure you two can work something out privately.
TBT
I dont know which anti-spyware forum you went to but if you continue to have problems you can download HJT and post a log in http//forums.spywareinfo.com but they are usually backed up about 3 days. Here's a link to the tutorial to look at it yourself. Goodluck.
hjt tutorial
<< <i>Why do people want to spy on other people's computers?---------------BigE >>
Thats like asking why do people steal your wallet?
1. personal info.
2. Bank info
3. Credit cards
The list goes on.
Cameron Kiefer
It makes me wonder with all the people that don't have a clue as to what a firewall is and don't even use one. Hell there's people on this board that don't even know how to post a picture so what they do when their computer gets infested and won't work right and they wonder why it runs slow or crashes all the time. Do something you think would be completely safe & innoncent like looking at coins and you get completely frigged up.
That is WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! People should be able to use & enjoy the internet without being subject to crap that damages their computer.
XpipedreamR-
That's the tough part. You have to know what the programs do. Most of them are just BS accessory stuff that clogs your system and you don't need them running all the time. Windows loads about 20-30 of them at startup and you only need about 2 or 3.
Whatever programs you use but don't need running all the time just right click on thier icon in the taskbar and uncheck the "run at startup" option.
That will get rid of a lot of wasted resources.
There will still be stuff running and you won't have a clue as to what it does and you have to research it yourself. There are computer sites that list & explain them Here's one but if you're not sure what a program does then DON'T MESS WITH IT or your puter might just quit working then you will have to startup in safe mode and enable the programs again.
there and make them feel our collective pain in a very real way.
Anybody else?
BigE - It's all about money. These people get paid by companies to install
ad delivery software on your system.
<< <i>Peaceman, while I understand you are upset about your issue with TT it does not give you the right to constantly disparage them on an open forum. >>
this is the most coin related post in this thread, thus far.
what gives you the right to determine what Peaceman's rights are, anyway?!
TBT
I'm not sure who put the spyware on my computer. Probably one of TeleTrade's many partner sites. Reading their fine print doesn't tell me much other than they do not respect your privacy and too bad so sad:
<<<In the course of using our web sites, we may automatically track certain information about you. This information may include the URL that you just came from (whether this URL is on our site or not), which URL you next go to (whether this URL is on our site or not), what browser you are using, and your IP address.
You are always free to decline our cookies if your browser permits,...declining cookies may prevent our system from accepting bids. Declining cookies may also prevent you from using many of the features that our web sites offer.
Internally, we use the information that we collect, including personally identifiable information, to improve our marketing and promotional efforts, to statistically analyze site usage, to improve our content and product offerings, and to enhance our sites' content and layout. We believe these uses allow us to improve our services and better meet our customers' needs and desires.
However, we may share non-identifying or aggregate information that does not disclose our customers' identity from time to time with our website designers, advertisers, or others.
Unfortunately, due to the existing regulatory environment, we cannot ensure that all of your private communications and other personally identifiable information will never be disclosed in ways not otherwise described in this notice and privacy policy statement....Therefore, although we use industry standard practices to protect your privacy, we do not promise, and you should not expect, that your personally identifiable information or private communications will remain private>>>
They are the ones that can put a stop to this.
I have to run adaware and spybot every couple days.
Ray
Jerry
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What's wrong.... ? I'm just stating a simple fact..... If he'd like to contact me and give me a refund I have no problem with that.... Even if he gave me back the $.... I'd STILL never ever ever ever buy a coin on TT ever again....... ever.... (did I say EVER)..... O, I DID.... good....... so he might as well keep his $..... He's not going to win in this situation.... I really don't care how nice the guy is.....I was polite to him when I called and he told me "sorry..."
Their return policy is going to really hurt him until he, they, whomever changes it... hopefully by then he'll realise how much business he's lost because of it and what a bad business decision it was for TT to ever enforce it. Fine, charge shipping and $10 or $ 15.... that's fair.... I do not think "the customer is always right" fits his line of thinking......... What about the cost for me to send it back to him..... I'm really out $65......
And you'll see this post EVERY SINGLE TIME TT is mentioned on this board..... until I think I got my $'s worth..... Heck, I could just dispute the CC charge if I really wanted to...... but I'm letting it go..... really...... Hope he spends it on a nice steak dinner on me..... He deserves it..... I bet he's already seeing sales going down and is wondering why.......
Just took your suggestion and installed se personal on my son's machine-got 61 criticals including data miners, registry keys, Alexa, etc-hopefully did the trick! Thanks! (there's no harm in removing these is there?)
designset
Treasury Seals Type Set
Sorry everybody has been having problems with their computers, but it is a relief to know I'm not the only one. I hate GATOR and I hate the people who put it out! I can't help it. This is a hatred that I've never felt before. But how much of this crap can a person take? I know myself. This is a hatred I MUST keep in check or I'll end up like the guy in California who is now in prison because of his threatening emails to a company that kept spamming him. There are times I spend more time getting my computer back to normal than using it for what it's intended for. I am focking POd!! On a lighter note, or better note, I've had tremendous results from both the free and bought version of ZONE ALARM.
Hey! I just had a NGCMS67PL 1881S Morgan crossover to a PCGSMS67PL!!!! I wanted to end on a happy note.
Jerry
Chris
designset
Treasury Seals Type Set
I wonder if these really work.
<< <i>I've seen "Web anonymisers" for under $50 that supposedly make your computer invisible to the internet.
I wonder if these really work. >>
Forget that, it's a gimmick. Use the free version of Zone Alarm, and you won't have any trouble.
<< <i>I've seen "Web anonymisers" for under $50 that supposedly make your computer invisible to the internet.
I wonder if these really work. >>
I don't know. But here's a website for one.www.anonymizer.com
But as I mentioned above your post and K6AZ mentions ZONE ALARM!!!!!
Jerry
designset
Treasury Seals Type Set
GRC Shields Up
They will show you what ports are open, closed, or stealth.
1907Quarter collector, there shouldn't be any reason you can't remove the criticals in adaware but lavasoft's forum is
Ad-aware forum
I believe the program saves what it removes until you delete the quarantine file. If you have WinXP, delete previous system restore points after your computer is really clean. If you don't then the bad stuff is still there. Just remember to create a new restore point. And all of temp files and cookies
designset
Treasury Seals Type Set
<<<I hate GATOR and I hate the people who put it out! I can't help it. This is a hatred that I've never felt before. But how much of this crap can a person take? I know myself. This is a hatred I MUST keep in check or I'll end up like the guy in California who is now in prison>>>
I AGREE!!!!! GRRRR...........
K6AZ-
Yep, that's what I'm screaming about. I get their want list emails several times a week and that is the first time it ever happened to me.
Purple73-
<<<I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. Even the files you mentioned are the same. You got lucky. I had to wipe my entire HD off cause it was threaded so bad I couldnt get it out. When my booted up my comp, it froze on the windows My comp runs better then ever now... cost me 117.00>>>
That's what I'm talking about. If I went on your property at your home and installed something in your front yard without your permission, say like a billboard saying "CLICK HERE" you would have my butt thrown in jail and sue me for damage to your property.
My property is MY PROPERTY! I don't pay my isp $39 a month for other people to use my computer.
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
Best Franklin Website
Just reading your thread has gotten my blood pressure up. I'm CONSTANTLY running AdAware trying to rid my computer of these FREAKIN spyware programs. I fantasize about getting ahold of the programmers that create this crap!
AdAware is trash & needs to be trashed. Noticed I commented favorably on the new AdAware Personal SE. As far as your ?? about deleting the quarantine you don't need to quarantee anything unless you have doubts as to what it really is. Internet Explorer browser comes with Alexa installed, and you might want to keep Alexa for example. Otherwise delete whatever it finds.
I know how to use Spybot. It missed too many spywares on my puter for me to speak favorably about it.
I do use Zone Alarm, the pro version. I like it but like I said I had turned off the js, ad, & cookie control to surf a lot of pictures faster and that's when the junk got me.