Beware EBay Seller GBPackerFan96
njdolphins
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This seller represents itself as a consignment shop. Purchase some 1939 PlayBall cards from them. They are very explicit about not accept returns for things that are not misrepresented. One of the cards I purchased has I crease going through it that was not visible in the scan and this seller advertised the card as being in EX or better condition. They furthermore explained what EX condition was and overtly stated that this would mean that the card would have no creases. Of course they tell me that they won't take back the card. Just a fair warning to others!
Ron
Ron
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1. Death
2. Taxes
3. Sellers who will not accept returns on misrepresented items are scam artist scumbags.
Get his phone number and talk to him. Sometimes seller-resistance comes from a belief that you are trying to scam him!!
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Have already had a discussion and the no return policy was thrown back at me irrespective of the fact that the item was advertised as having no creases. C'est la vie.
Ron
Sorry to hear about your misfortune. It sounds to me that the seller genuinely missed the crease, but is being extremely inflexible in refusing the refund by hiding behind the "ALL ITEMS ARE BEING SOLD AS-IS" clause he has put several times in his description.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
It was not the Moe Berg card but that's not the point. The seller seems rather offended that I would ask for my money back and I felt compelled to print a portion of an email received from them.
From: "GBPackerFan96" <gbpackerfan96@sbcglobal.net> Block Sender | Block Domain
Date: 2004/11/04 Thu AM 09:51:26 EST
To: "Ronald Lambert" <ronald.lambert9@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Your invoice for eBay purchases - item #5133716835, 5133686014, 1939 PLAY BALL CARD #82 CHARLES HERBERT KLEIN *EX+*, 1939 PLAY BALL CARD #65 HARRY FRANCIS CRAFT *EX+*
I'll respond if I feel like it. Delete away, but if you write me, I WILL REPSOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go to square trader and file a complaint, I am a memeber with them in good standing too. It'll cost you $20.00, I think to file the complaint and then they see if you have a valid complaint and negotiate. Good Luck.
YOU ARE PERMANANETLY BLOCKED FROM EVER ACCIDENTLY BIDDING ON ANY OF MY ITEMS AGAIN, so you won't have to worry. Not that you are planning on it, but I don't want to deal with someone who can't read and understand what sold as-is means either. You wasted my time too and are now planning on causing me harrasment because you want special terms, just for you.
I have thousands of customers and it's the 2 per year that are morons. Thanks for getting one of those out of the way for me this year.
Later in the note they make it clear that they will automatically leave me a negative if I leave them one. Very nice.
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I reciprocate feedback. You've only left me 4 feedbacks, so I left you 4 feedbacks. If you zing me, I reciprocate your feedback. That term is also stated in my ad, the one you read SO carefully.
Personally, I don't think his policy supercedes misrepresenting the item. But he doesn't sound like he's smart enough to understand this, so I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing.
Please don't take this the wrong way, and it's entirely possible that this guy is a loony from Mars, but what you quoted from his email sounds like you were possibly a little less than cavalier in your approach to him. He says "I'll respond if I feel like it." Perhaps you were a bit demanding that he respond to you?
All I'm suggesting, and I don't mean to use your situation as an example, is that we might better resolve our issues with sellers and buyers thru email if we keep in mind we're talking to someone very much like ourselves on the other end - people, much like ourselves, who don't respond well to threats and coercion. Too often, I think we jump to the conclusion that the guy on the other end, since he doesn't seem to be responding the way we want him to, is a first class jerk who didn't make it out of the first grade, smells bad and probably hangs around grade school playgrounds.
I've learned that bullying people through emails NEVER gets the results I want, and ALWAYS makes the situation worse. That's a lose-lose proposition. It's like road rage, only via the internet.
Thanks for letting me vent and sorry to hijack your situation here. Sorry you didn't get satisfaction.
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
"Seller misrepresented card's condition as uncreased."
should cost him a fair number of sales, and when he leaves you a negative, responding with
"Retaliatory negative from seller who misrepresented card's condition." will satisfy anyone looking at your feedback.
Nick
Reap the whirlwind.
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ever notice the unprofessional sellers always resort to name calling? moron, idiot etc........
On the contrary. That mail was the 4th in the chain. My first explained my plight and asked for the ability to return the card. Their first threw the policy in my face along with a copy of the scan of the card and questioned whether or not I bent it. My 3rd mail said that it was obvious I wasn't going to get relief and I told them that I thought they were being unreasonable in light of the fact that they advertised the card as being crease free which in my mind negated the "no returns" policy when in fact the card was creased. I suggested that they don't reply to my mail in so much as I knew it wouldn't be a different position they would be sharing with me.
Anyways, I am now past this. Thank you all for helping me with my catharsis.
<< <i> I suggested that they don't reply to my mail in so much as I knew it wouldn't be a different position they would be sharing with me.
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So that's what he meant by "I'll respond if I feel like it." - wotta dork!
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
"All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
<< <i>Not kidding and not entirely loose. They did have polystyrene around them and inside a bubble mailer. >>
NJ
Sorry to hear about this - the guy is a jerkoff - one thing tho - he is not a dealer and rarely sells cards and could give a rats ass about anyone like us since he will almost never deal with collectors. He sells the kind of cheap crap that rarely gets you bad feedback - a true garage sale layout.
Sounds like you handled that situation about as well as anyone could - he doesn't seem like someone who would be easy to negotiate with - and someone I would not be calling over for Thanksgiving turkey!!!!!
your friend
Mike
Card had surface creases. Sent it back to him for inspection, and never received any money back.
Paid only $5, so wrote if off as a lesson.
I waited until the last day of 30 day feedback, and neg'd his feedback with 30 min. left, so he couldn't return the favor.
All he could do was respond to the negative on his side.
Made me feel better. This type of jerk should just know he needs to grade more accurately, and you won't stand for it.
I'd write it off and forget about it. Life is too short to waste the energy.
Nate