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BALCO gave steroids to Barry Bonds: report

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BALCO gave steroids to Barry Bonds: report

Sun Oct 31, 3:36 AM ET Top Stories - AFP



SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) - BALCO officials allegedly told US federal investigators that it provided San Francisco giants slugger Barry Bonds with steroids, American newspapers reported.


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Court documents obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle described Victor Conte as saying Bonds regularly visited his lab for steroids. Conte has denied the allegation and Bonds has repeatedly denied using steroids.


The BALCO statements described how Bonds complained about the quality of one of the steroid products BALCO was providing.


"Bonds has received the 'clear' and the 'cream' from BALCO on several occasions," the documents quoted BALCO vice-president James Valente as saying.


Valente allegedly went on to say that Bonds does not like how the 'clear' product makes he feel.


Valente told investigators that American chemist Patrick Arnold was the mastermind behind the 'clear' and that Major League Baseball all-stars Benito Santiago, Gary Sheffield and Jason Giambi also used the drug.


Valente, Conte, track coach Remi Korchemny and Bonds' personal trainer Greg Anderson are awaiting trial on charges of distributing steroids and money laundering. The four have all pleaded not guilty.


Anderson also allegedly said he gave performance enhancing drugs to former San Francisco catcher Bobby Estalella and former Giants outfielder Armando Rios.


Anderson told investigators he got the human growth hormone from AIDS (news - web sites) patients who sold it instead of taking it as a presciption.



RIP Snow

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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    But Barry is sooooooooooo good for MLB ... please don't do anything about it.
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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    The Ingrate must have been rubbing the "cream" on his dome.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭
    Holy Moly!

    I hope BKAH does not open this thread. He will be crushed to hear this news.

    aconte
  • DeltaSigChi4DeltaSigChi4 Posts: 59
    Barry Bonds is a disgrace to the sport.
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  • mercurynutmercurynut Posts: 3,207
    It was only a matter of time before the truth started comming out!
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i>It was only a matter of time before the truth started comming out! >>



    Why would any idiot believe Bonds and his lies? I've stated all along that he has used some sort of substance (either GH and/or steroids) and it has been good for the sport. Who actually cared to watch Bonds' every move prior to his "Hulk" phase?
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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Holy Moly!
    I hope BKAH does not open this thread. He will be crushed to hear this news.
    aconte >>

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    It is a text book Witch hunt.

    In this story, pay special attention to
    the use of the phrase...
    COMPLETELY FABRICATED

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Holy Moly!
    I hope BKAH does not open this thread. He will be crushed to hear this news.
    aconte >>

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    It is a text book Witch hunt.

    In this story, pay special attention to
    the use of the phrase...
    COMPLETELY FABRICATED

    image >>



    Wow the same response to 2 threads...I think you are one of 2 people left who don't think bonds took steroids.

    Must be tough living in that world called denial.


  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>I think you are one of 2 people left who don't think bonds took steroids.
    Must be tough living in that world called denial. >>

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    you continue to show me conjecture, rumors,
    hearsay, and hyperbole.

    Now the prosecutors are just making stuff up on Bonds
    and anyone else they can find in order to get attention
    and "cheat to win" (Ironic, since that is what you accuse Bonds of...)


    If he is guilty, show me the tests?
    or the Arrest records?
    or something to convict him,
    rather than just accuse and crucify like you do.


    ....but you can't.



    When you do, I will gladly admit he did something wrong,
    but will not convict a man on nothing but lies
    and jealousy.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Why would I be jealous of a man who has lied and cheated to get where he is?

    I hope no one out there points to bonds and tells their kids what an upstanding guy he is.

    The man has disgraced the game with his cheating, with his piss poor attitude, with his 'I am the team' mentality...

    If he truly were interested in winning, he'd have restructured his deal and gotten some talent in SF to help out. As it is, he doesn't care how many wins the team has, as long as he gets his HR's and millions of dollars.

    I know there is no convincing you he's cheater, BKAH, but everyone else here who has any amount of reasonable thought processes knows the man has cheated.
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Why would I be jealous of a man who has lied and cheated to get where he is?

    I know there is no convincing you he's cheater, BKAH, but everyone else here who has any amount of reasonable thought processes knows the man has cheated. >>

    I say again...
    based on what exactly?

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  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i> know there is no convincing you he's cheater, BKAH >>



    Correct!



    << <i>but everyone else here who has any amount of reasonable thought processes knows the man has cheated. >>



    Correct Again!


    aconte
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
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    I think Barry and Mr. Met share the same hat size
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  • noclassnoclass Posts: 165
    << know there is no convincing you he's cheater, BKAH >>



    Correct!



    << but everyone else here who has any amount of reasonable thought processes knows the man has cheated. >>



    Correct Again!


    aconte


    People are going to believe whatever they want to believe, nothing typed on this forum will change anyone's mind when that mind has already been made up.

  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    I find it very interesting that
    considering all that you all seem to
    think is "common knowledge" about
    Bonds supposedly doing steroids,
    that MLB coaches and managers would
    voluntarily get together to award Bonds
    this Silver Slugger or any other award...
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    coaches and managers voted for a player at each position
    in the National and American League. Managers and coaches
    were not allowed to vote for a player on their own team.

    Here is the whole story for those
    who are interested in what the Pros
    think about Bonds... image
    Bonds Wins 12th Silver Slugger Award
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    referring to george w bush and God is sacrilege Jeff ... c'mon, that is an absolute disgrace.
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>referring to george w bush and God is sacrilege Jeff ... c'mon, that is an absolute disgrace. >>

    Wow.
    You do not like or trust anyone do you?!

    I did not take the pictures
    or write the text on them.
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    I never did hear any explanation as to
    how all the MLB coaches and managers would
    voluntarily get together to award Bonds
    this Silver Slugger or any other award...

    Especially since you experts here all
    seem to have decided difinitively that Bonds
    is guilty...

    I suppose you all know so much more about
    the game, training and Bonds than
    ALL of them!
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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    You do not like or trust anyone do you?!

    Huh? I do not see the correlation between your ASSumption and what I stated about gw and God.

    I think the reason there was a lack of response was due to the lack of people reading the article. Bonds is not a sports figure that many people give two ships about ... big deal, he is going to break a record. Aaron was clean.

    You are a rather peculiar person BKAH. Praising two idiots the way you do .... image


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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>You are a rather peculiar person BKAH. Praising two idiots the way you do >>

    And you are a typical liberal
    who resorts to name calling when
    you have no real arguement.

    your guy lost. grow up.

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  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Not a liberal at all - so think if you do not know what you are talking about. Were there Republican's who did not vote for Bush? I know at least one ....

    Is calling you "peculiar" name calling?
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  • GoBravesGoGoBravesGo Posts: 607 ✭


    << <i>Were there Republican's who did not vote for Bush? I know at least one .... >>

    looks like he did fine even without your friend.
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  • EvilleKlownieEvilleKlownie Posts: 43 ✭

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    the Devil.


  • JerseyJersey Posts: 542
    Braves - where did you get that map with the detailed break-down? It's very interesting.
    Wise men learn more from fools than fools learn from the wise.

  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    If he would have just stuck to rubbing the "cream" on his injured body parts, instead of his cranium, nobody would have noticed.
    Proud of my 16x20 autographed and framed collection - all signed in person. Not big on modern - I'm stuck in the past!
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Braves - where did you get that map with the detailed break-down? It's very interesting. >>

    They are talking about it on the
    Open forum.
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  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>Is calling you "peculiar" name calling? >>

    well actually it is...

    but that is not what I was referring to.

    I mentioned name calling because of
    your use of the term "idiot".
    I assume you were referring to Bonds
    and President Bush, but I know your
    love for me is right in line with that.

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  • JustinJustin Posts: 183
    EvilleKlownie and 1420 sports,

    Take a lookie here:

    http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>EvilleKlownie and 1420 sports,

    Take a lookie here:

    http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm >>

    then look here to see that what
    Justin posted was deemed a Hoax .

    It was a nice try, though, Justin.
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