1933 Goudey Ruth On Ebay

EOMINT · October 30, 2004 5:06AM

Looks gorgeous but is it legit? I've never seen a PSA holder w/ black background like that, is it new?

EO

crsportscards33 · October 30, 2004 6:28AM

Link??

dallasactuary · October 30, 2004 7:10AM

If you mean this one, then I vote scam.

ajw · October 30, 2004 7:24AM

No comment on the Ruth auction...but check out what else he's got on the block:

A little weird

1979COLLECTOR · October 30, 2004 7:41AM

I wouldnt give him any money. I think its a scam.

Buccaneer · October 30, 2004 7:46AM

Two red flags for me was "cashiers check only" and a lengthy but worthless bio that talks nothing about the card and it's potential place in a set.

ranger63 · October 30, 2004 8:04AM

I think there is a better chance of the hair being real than the card

calleocho · October 30, 2004 8:10AM

scam

jrdolan · October 30, 2004 8:23AM

Well, only 6 of those cards are graded 9 and it seems unlikely that one of them would belong to someone with little feedback and even less history of selling things. Kind of a big step up to go from small potatoes to a PSA 9 Ruth. But the bidding is spirited and with this much $$ at stake, I sure hope some of the bidders have grilled him.

bobsbbcards · October 30, 2004 9:10AM

Well, if you want a guarantee that all of this guy's auctions are scams, check out the holder on this card. I guess PSA and SGC merged (PSGCA).

Here's the link:

1933 GOUDEY #144 BABE RUTH GRADED PSA 8

WinPitcher · October 30, 2004 10:30AM

the holder has one url address

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86843&item=5134541836&rd=1

the card of ruth another

http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/prizesports/baberuthpsa93318188.jpg

the cert from psa is prolly a 3rd

( i couldnt get to it)

S C A M

interchanges · October 30, 2004 9:48PM

I sent him the ol' "I live on the east coast, I'm a dealer who travels alot. If I win these cards I would like to pick them up." email.
Will see what he says.

interchanges · October 31, 2004 12:21AM

Well he just sent me two emails. The first said he only ships via registered insured mail.
Then he said: I'd advise you to place a proxy bid. 81 people are watching this auction to date.

I'm coming up with something to reply with.

jrdolan · October 31, 2004 12:41AM

You could congratulate him for making the sudden leap from modern autographs and cheap felt pennants all the way up to a $60,000 PSA 9 Ruth. That's quite a step up in the world.

EOMINT · October 31, 2004 1:33AM

I think the merged SGC and PSA holder is the best part, along w/ the extensive biography of the Babe in order to make it look legit...what a joke.

goodriddance189 · October 31, 2004 1:41AM

of course this is a scam. and the scan is legit (as in unaltered), scan a graded card with a black background and this is what you get.

as for the card, i forgot where i saw it last, but it isn't his card. that's for damn sure

jrdolan · October 31, 2004 2:31AM

I always scan my cards with a black background (unless it's a black card like 1971 Topps) so bidders can see the corners better.

With the '33 Goudey holders and their frosted plastic surrounding the card window, it does sort of look like an SGC gasket when the background is black. It doesn't make any sense to take a PSA flip for a genuine '33 Ruth (which it is) and put it on an SGC holder. Why bother, if you've got the scan of the PSA Ruth to begin with?

Here's another perspective: The Babe Ruth master and basic set registries have a total of 4 members. Neither Fogel, Branca, Louchios nor Levy have this card in PSA 9. But this guy does. Ohhhhhhh-kay....

I'm kinda curious why none of the half-dozen PSA 9's are in the Ruth registry. Maybe they're in the '33 Goudey registry.

aloof1003 · October 31, 2004 3:25AM

Check out one of the high bidder's on the ruth auction.link

doesn't inspire much confidence........ huh.

scott

WinPitcher · October 31, 2004 4:11AM

From my limited experience i see that the card and the holder are 2 different things, each can be copied with 2 different url addresses. am i mistaken?

it appears to me that a raw card was placed on a holder
that either has a blk pc of paper behind it or is a sgc holder.

jrdolan · October 31, 2004 4:34AM

Merging a scan of a raw card with a scan of a holder... you may be right about that. But again, why? He must have had a scan of a real PSA 9 Ruth to start with. The cert. # checks out. What's the point of layering a raw or reprinted Ruth on top of a real one?

Galveston · October 31, 2004 6:20AM

It looks to me like the card is a reprint. Why he would stick a fake card on top of a real card (since he had the holder) doesn't make sense but that's what it looks like to me. Maybe he's come up with a holder with legit serial numbers, or made his own, and he's going to put the reprint inside.

MRyanF · October 31, 2004 11:04PM

The same rock-the-vote bidder is bidding up several of his cards. And he has also listed a PSA 9 Ted Williams too. I think he is trying to get as much at once from his scams and then take a quick out. He will probably disapear after these auctions are done. Well at least that ID will disapear, but there is probably alreay another out there ready to start the game again.

WinPitcher · November 3, 2004 11:24PM

18k...........damn

interchanges · November 4, 2004 12:06AM

here's a shocker, I asked him for a scan of the back of the card. He is unable to do it because the card is in a safety deposit box and he is unable to get to it before the auction ends.

miami3 · November 4, 2004 1:15AM

P.T. Barnum was not that far off....there is a sucker born every minute.

This auction is such as scam the ebay listing itself should have music playing in the back drop with a goulish halloween laughter.

Stay away you fools!

1933 Goudey Ruth On Ebay

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