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Anyone Ever Heard Of A 1907 Indian Cent Struck On A White Metal Planchet (w/ a clip no less)?

Seller said it was brass but looks very much like the CN ones in the early 1860's. Also has a small clip from about 11:30-12:30 (maybe 5% of coin missing). ??? image

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  • I've never seen one. You have a picture?


    Jerry
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd love to see it too. Clips aren't all that uncommon on 1907 Indians, but the descripion of the metal is intriguing.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    I'd love to see it too. Aside from a few common dates struck on gold planchets due to some playful Mint employees, that's a new one! Unless it was struck on a foreign planchet of some sort, it's hard to believe it's copper-nickel. Some other possibilities are it came from a very poorly mixed batch of bronze that acquired a washed out tone over the years. Or it was severely cleaned. Would be interesting to see an image.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would bet it's a basement job, but let see some pics.
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  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    My friend took the pics & still looks more yellow/gold/orange than in person. Also, I guess the clip is smaller than I first thought. Maybe only 1-2%.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well the clip is good, anyway. Tough to tell if anything unusual is going on with the planchet metal from those pics, though. I have seen copper nickel Indians with grayish color before, so I'm doubtful that it's anything more than normal trace element variations.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Looks like an ex-jewellery peice? might have been plated at one time or possibly one of the gold planchet strikes the accidently on purpose error? check minterror news #7 article by Saul Teichman.
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    As Sean "the clip man" said the clip looks like the real deal.

    White balance issues make judging the color difficult, but your comparison to the 1908 (your last pic) makes me think there's nothing unusual about the planchet. 1907's often have a golden tone, compared to the typically orange toned 1908. If you check out the IH collage at the bottom of my Altered Surfaces sig link you'll see that IH's come in many shades of "red". The inconsistent mix of bronze supplied to the Mint made for a wide variety of colors in this series.

    That nick on the mouth also makes this a frowning Indian image

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