Nero Aureus back from ICG - guess the grade

JZrarities · October 25, 2004 8:57AM

I just got back this Nero Aureus from ICG - any guesses at the grade?

(I'll post the answer in a few days)

ajaan · October 25, 2004 9:03AM

MS62

<< <i>(I'll post the answer in a few days) >>

A FEW DAYS!!!! With the attention span of most of the members here, me included, in a few days we'll forget what or who Nero is.

lordmarcovan · October 25, 2004 9:09AM

AU53?

Nice piece, whatever the grade!

lordmarcovan · October 25, 2004 9:09AM

PS- looks like he had a goiter on the back of his neck!

Donovan · October 25, 2004 9:32AM

<< <i>PS- looks like he had a goiter on the back of his neck!

>>

As soon as I saw the picture, I thought "looks like he has goiter" and then I scrolled down and saw your post.

AuldFartte · October 25, 2004 10:06AM

to the Forums, JZ !!!

I won't even hazard a guess. I can't grade ancients ...

But it IS a beautiful coin

goldrush00013 · October 25, 2004 10:14AM

I'm with FartteMaster, I couldn't grade a preschoolers finger painting!

Very nice though!!!!

JZrarities · October 25, 2004 11:06AM

Ahhh - you guys are too funny!

OK - two days (just to give everyone time who wants a guess).

Long time luker - thanks for the Welcome.

I actually thought Nero was a hamster and that was one pack of 'chewed nuts' on the back of his neck.
Chewed Nuts <---- did I say that?

-JZ

Donovan · October 25, 2004 12:09PM

I'm going with EF-40.

Aethelred · October 25, 2004 12:11PM

AU-50

XpipedreamR · October 25, 2004 12:29PM

EF45

Steve27 · October 25, 2004 7:52PM

AU-50, and why did you send it to ICG?

newsman · October 25, 2004 8:44PM

B+

Philip · October 25, 2004 9:54PM

<< <i>EF45 >>

You beat me to it

earlwbollinger · October 26, 2004 2:40AM

Well it looks to have some wear, so I'd have to go with XF45 maybe AU50.
Nice excellent coin anyway.
Yes that's a goiter on Nero.

JZrarities · October 26, 2004 4:05AM

I sent the Nero in, more to be protected in a slab than to care about the grade.
I do have some ancients that warrant being in protective holders (and some that don't),
and the slab provides a relative guarantee of authenticity, protection, and an independent opinion of wear.

Hint #1 - it didn't grade as high as I thought it would.

CIVITAS · October 26, 2004 4:37AM

Actual grade: gF
ICG: PF-70?

JamminJ · October 26, 2004 5:09AM

High VF - say 35.

-JamminJ

kieferscoins · October 26, 2004 5:40AM

VF-30.

Cameron Kiefer

coinmickey · October 26, 2004 5:46AM

VF-35

JZrarities · October 26, 2004 7:53PM

I compared the Nero to my Tiberius aureus graded ICG VF-30 and thought it had a little more detail and less wear, but obviously it is a different design and it was only my opinion. I thought it was an honest VF-35 with a shot at EF-40. The price guide takes a huge jump in EF-40 from $3k to $10k so I was hoping it would get the EF grade. (I am aware of the differences in European/US grading standards)

It Graded: VF-30

I was disappointed. The coin looks great IMO but looks much better than my other VF-30 aureus. Must be Nero's revenge for the fire...

kieferscoins · October 26, 2004 9:47PM

I was the only one who got it right!

Cameron Kiefer

Askari · October 27, 2004 9:28AM

Welcome, JZrarities!!! A very nice aureus -- goiter and all!!

Is that doubling I see on the reverse legend?

JZrarities · October 27, 2004 10:34AM

Doubling? Did someone say doubling??? <looking with a loupe>

Naahh, just FAT writing - probably goiter byproduct.

-JZ

Askari · October 27, 2004 11:40AM

I don't know ... look at the 'E' at 10:00 on the reverse. Your pic shows a double line along the back of the otherwise nearly filled-in letter.

ancients · October 27, 2004 12:05PM

Based on the scan and comparing it to several of my ICG graded ancients, I initially thought it would grade between a VF 30 and a VF 35. A very nice coin! What other ICG graded ancients do you have?

lordmarcovan · October 27, 2004 12:13PM

Man, I was way off.

But I was tryin' to guess the ICG grade.

Great coin, goiter and all.

I'd love to have an aureus.

JZrarities · October 27, 2004 7:54PM

My other ICG graded ancients were originally pictured in the August edition of the Celator - mostly Greek.

I have a couple on Alexander's with toning that takes my breath away. Also, a nice Lysimachos, a Punic horse Tet, mostly Ex:auction stuff, etc.

Only the two Roman aureus, and a Titus Restoration Augustus (bought already slabbed).

Overall, I've been indifferent to the ICG slab of my ancients. I am happy that some of them do make it into the slab (AE's are difficult - my Nero dupondius is fantastic, and I wasn't aware of the enviro-damage on the reverse). But, ICG seems to be pretty hard on the grades. I have a few that I thought were near MS or atleast AU-58,, many got AU-50 grades and one got an EF-45. I do like the coins better in the holder,, they're easier to handle and give the coins more 'respectability' as they are presented better than a 2x2 flip.

-JZ

ancients · November 2, 2004 9:55AM

>> I have a few that I thought were near MS or atleast AU-58,, many got AU-50 grades and one got an EF-45. I do like the coins better in the holder,, they're easier to handle and give the coins more 'respectability' as they are presented better than a 2x2 flip. <<

Like yourself, I also like the coins in ICG slabs; but I try to reserve that for the higher graded coins. I have a few Alexander the Great's that are graded ICG 60 and above and they are just amazing to look at in the slab.

Askari · November 2, 2004 10:08AM

Welcome, Ancients!!

MadMuffin · November 3, 2004 4:46PM

Welcome!

I'd say F-VF but that would be by Scandinavian standard. So probably VF by US standard. Pretty coin!

Marcel

ancients · November 7, 2004 3:14PM

Thanks for the welcome!

I'm mainly interested in the coinage of Julius Caesar. I'm getting close to completing the entire run of his coins and when that happens, I'm not sure what I will chase after that.

cosmicdebris · November 7, 2004 6:09PM

Welcome aboard JZrarities & Ancients!!!

Just don't try to get me collecting that old stuff, I got too many directions to go in now as it is.

Askari · November 8, 2004 9:36AM

<< <i>I'm mainly interested in the coinage of Julius Caesar. I'm getting close to completing the entire run of his coins and when that happens, I'm not sure what I will chase after that.

>>

Even the portrait series??

ancients · November 12, 2004 3:33PM

<< Even the portrait series?? >>

Yes.

Newmismatist · November 12, 2004 3:39PM

Low end VF ( I guess that would make it a VF30) Too much wear to be any better

Nero Aureus back from ICG - guess the grade

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