? on End of Pain conders

spoon

I bid on this one over the weekend and ran out of time upping the bid (came in 2nd, going against a automated sniper ). That's probably the neatest variety I've seen yet. Can anyone with a book tell me the list value for it, just out of curiosity?

That's not my main question though.. How many varieties are there of the Paine puns? If someone has time can you provide a rundown of the different ones and rough values or is there a website out there with this info already? I'd like to get one for my Granddad, a history teacher.

Sorry to be a pain, I don't have any of the appropriate catalogs. Thanks!

syraq

Isn't this similar to the dead king's (ex-)icon?

boz

Real quick, I counted 17. That's not to mention the Farthing size though . Spence tokens are going up in price and nice grades are getting quite pricey depending on the token. I've paid anywhere from the mid $100 to $400 for some of my higher grades.

Conder101

The "End of Pain" tokens come on both halfpennys and farthings. There are 12 different die varieties and 6 edge varieties of half pennys, and 7 die varieties and 3 edge varieties of farthings. (There are two related pieces 837 and 838, NOTED ADVOCATES FOT THE RIGHTS OF MEN. They have three hanging men (Thomas Paine, Thomas Hardy, and Thomas Spence) but do not mention Paine directly.)

The EOP tokens are very popular and tend to sell for more than what the rariety would indicate. The piece in the sale you linked strikes me as reasonably priced but it is NOT an RR token as the seller indicated. The D&H 830 with the PAYABLE AT SHREWBURY edge is the RR piece. This one (D&H 830a) was plain edged and is considered to be common.

Rarities according to D&H

RR
829, 830, and 832 halfpennys
1106, 1107, 1108, and 1109 farthings

R
831, 834, and 836 halfpennys
1106a, 1108a and 1111 farthings

Scarce
827, 828, and 835 halfpennys
1105, 1110, and 1111a farthings

Common
829a, 830a, 831a, 833, 833a, 837 and 838 halfpenny
there are no common farthings

Varieties unknown to D&H (should probably be considered RR or higher.)
827a edge is WILLEY SNEDSHILL BERSHAM BRADLEY
829b edge same as 827a
830b edge PAYABLE IN ANGLESEY LONDON OR LIVERPOOL
831bis
833bis
834a edge is milled

Number seen by Dr Sriro from his study of the sales of over 25,000 tokens
827 4 coins
827a none
828 3 coins
829 none
829a none
829b none
830 none
830a 10 coins (This is the variety from the auction you linked)
830b none
831 4 coins
831a 16 coins
831bis none
832 none
833 9 coins
833a 8 coins
833bis none
834 5 coins
834a none
835 none
836 none
837 12 coins
838 none
1105 7 coins
1106 none
1106a 3 coins
1107 none
1108 none
1108a none
1109 none
1110 4 coins
1111 none
1111a 4 coins

spoon

Wow! Thanks for the info guys

Now the hunt begins