Variety question for 1824/4 Bust Half dollar

Crazy4Coins

I have a 1824/4 half that I designated as a O-109 variety. I was looking at it through a loupe and noticed doubling of the nose, lips chin and neck. Is this common on all O-109 varieties. Overton doesn't mention anything about it. If it were on all 109's wouldn't it be another diagnostic listed? If you look at the coin pictured for the O-108 variety you can see the doubling that is on my coin. The picture of the 109 doesn't show the doubling. Maybe my half is really a O-108.5

Randy

nepbrs44

Can you post the pictures? There was doubling on the 1824 O-111 and 0-112. Is there a large center dot with a circle around it in the center of Miss Liberty's neck? on these to Overton marriages

nepbrs44

JadeRareCoin

You are seeing a double profile that is the result of worn mint machinery. Is is not inherent to the die and is found on most years of Capped Bust Halves. There's little to no premium for minor double profiles, although triple profile coins will draw a premium. Is is neat, however.

Again, the doubling found on Capped Bust halves should not be associated with any Overton variety, since it is not "in the die", but rather a bi-product of striking planchets with worn mint equipment.

Crazy4Coins

Bill, I don't have the coin in front of me right now. I'll try to get a pic up this evening.

Jade, The bi-product explanation makes sense... I'll have to take a closer look later to see if there is any tripling.The doubling is very strong.

Thanks,
Randy

Nysoto

Almost all of the 1823, 1824, and 1825 bust half dollar die marriages can be found with double profiles (machine doubling). They occur randomly during these years and are not connected to early or late die states, but are caused, in theory, from worn die cups used to set the hammer die in. The 1822 and 1827 years do not have double profiles.

The double profiles are not diagnostic on any variety, but some (1823 O.109) are very common with doubling. Double strikes, as opposed to machine doubling, are extremely rare with bust halves. Hub doubling, where the doubling would be on the working die, does not occur in the series.

Double profile bust halves are very interesting, they are not supposed to carry a premium, but I have seen many examples sell for a slight premium, and interest is increasing with them.

Bill

stman

More double profiles for me.