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Hey Cacheman, is this a Goetz???

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
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Picked it up at the show today. Is it a Goetz? If so how much is it worth?

Thanks
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    nein, das ist nicht ein Goetz, schade...image
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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    There may be a few goats in the background.
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  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    Is that a "K" near his knee? Is there anything on the edge of the medal? If I had a Forrer set I'd look into it for you but I don't yet. S
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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,288 ✭✭✭
    Hey Marty, does that medal show Freddie Mercury wearing a fanny-pack and walking through a field?
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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    No, not Goetz. It's from Kulmbach, which is in Bavaria and I have little doubt that he would have seen this medal. Can you make out the designer's initial(s)? Are there any markings on the edge?
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Nothing on the edge and here are the initials.
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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,648 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like an "MMK" monogram.

    MadMartyK. Hmm.

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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    It does look like a monogram, but it's one I've not seen before. Possibly R. Küchler, but I wouldn't swear by it.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Looks like something else for the darkside pile!image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭


    << <i>Looks like something else for the darkside pile! image >>

    "PILE?!?!!" image Hey, if your Dark Side treasures are doomed to go to into an ignominious pile, send them to me -- I promise to find them a good home!!

    Hmph!! It's getting to cold to turn you into a newt ... would a salamander do? image
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Be nice I just got my Piefort slabbed and don't make me show pictures!!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • cachemancacheman Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭
    Hey Marty...take the salamander...the last thing you want is to be turned into a Gingrich....image
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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    Yeah, not this close to Christmas either. imageimage
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  • GooberGoober Posts: 980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nein, das ist nicht ein Goetz, schade...image >>



    Ja, ich muss ein wie deine finden, aber hoffentlich billiger als $400 dollarimage
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Hey Marty, is this writing or just crud?



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  • DarkhorseDarkhorse Posts: 1,377
    Clearly not Goetz's style but it's still pretty cool.
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Is that a San Francisco Sower?
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  • elvernoelverno Posts: 1,068 ✭
    This is a tough one. Are those letters "K" and "R"? If so, I would agree it could be Rudolf Kuchler. Forrer shows him active at least until 1915 so a medal from 1925 isn't unlikely. The same is possible for Reinhard Kullrich who was active at least as late as 1913. Nothing else is obvious in Forrer, at least to me... image
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hey Marty, is this writing or just crud? >>



    It's writing!
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    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • elvernoelverno Posts: 1,068 ✭
    It's hard to read but it looks like L. Chr. Lauer and Nuernberg. That would be consistent, however it's the name of the company named L. Chr. Lauer, which was located in that city. The gentleman himself died in 1873. The engraver could have been one of the Lauer family but the company struck medals for other artists as well. Hm...
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  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713 ✭
    Ludwig Christian Lauer is his full name. The company often commissioned out some of their work to well-known engravers, so it's not unlikely that the monogram is the mark of someone like Küchler.
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