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How is this card a 5?

1952 Bowman Willie Mays

Does this card seem overgraded? I'd say that's a 4 at best, no?

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  • I agree... I have a 54 Ted Williams that is a PSA five that puts that card to shame. Looks very much overgraded.
    Collecting vintage material, currently working on 1962 topps football set.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I agree! If that card is a 5, what do you think of this one?

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  • That photo looks weird. No way does the flip go with that card. Me smells a scam.
  • BTW, Stone that looks like a 9 at least image
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    The Mays card must have gotten a bump up based on eye-appeal. image

    Also, a card can be a PSA 9 in all respects,
    but if it has a surface wrinkle, it automatically becomes a PSA 5.
    Must be why Stone's Russell card didn't grade any higher.



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  • The Mays photo or slab has obviously been tampered with. The card is a 2.

    Stone,

    I'm sitting on a bunch of Goudey 5s like your Jack Russell. It can make you sick to your stomach especially when 3/4 of the 5s are sliders with corner wear and crap centering.
    It kills the appeal of the set registry. I have a Dizzy Dean PSA 5 that is nicer than 95% of all the PSA 7s I've seen. I sent it in and didn't get a bump. This grading sh!t is total nonsense. I hope everyone realizes it. Half my cards are misgraded. I wish there was just an authentification service and I could let the cards speak for themselves.

    Best,

    Scumbi
  • card and flip dont go together...i am gonna ask him for a view of the whole card and the back.
  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    I think the slab has been cracked open and resealed with a G-VG card inside, then the original Mays sent off for grading. That's why the scan is so exceedingly bright and cropped the way it is, so you can't see the telltale signs on the holder. A resealed slab is the only way he could hope to carry off this scam.

    The seller says: "Personnally I think it should of gotten at least a 6." Oh yeah, that's a borderline NM, all right. image

    A grader who is hung over and unable to focus his eyes or think clearly would not grade that card a PSA 5. Somebody is going to be a very unhappy camper when he receives that card. I wonder if the jury-rigged holder will fall apart in transit.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    I don't even think there is a slab. He copied a flip and scanned the card then brought them together. complete photoshop jobimage
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I agree no way is that card in a psa slab. scam



    Good for you.
  • the guy sent me a front and back scan of the card and the case looks in tact and the cert matches. if it has been cracked i dont know what to look for. i would post the pics but dont know how. if some one can tell me i will post em.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    the sellers sez:

    What can I say it's a beautiful card that is hard to come by in this good of condition. Personnally I think it should of gotten at least a 6





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    Good for you.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does this card seem overgraded? I'd say that's a 4 at best, no? >>



    don't the grading standards say a card that's been used as dental floss on all four corners grade no better than 2? That card looks like somebody did some nibbling...BTW, anybody see this l'il gotcha buried away in his listing?

    "Seller's payment instructions & return policy
    All graded cards are final and no returns."

    He's got some raw Cracker Jacks that look pretty good and are getting some healthy bids, but I wouldn't trust them either. Wish there were someway to shut this guy down.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> wish there was just an authentification service and I could let the cards speak for themselves. >>


    Scumbi
    Be careful what you wish for. Since I had the metal plate removed from my cranium, I am incessantly bombarded with messages from the cards in my closet. Just last nite I overheard them plotting against me and I now fear for my life. I now sleep with my Feljowes A73 paper shredder at my side for protection. I think their incarceration into tiny plastic holders has driven them to insanity and even my 78T Bruce Sutter diamond cut has demonstrated hostile tendencies that I would only expect from a more truculent Yankee starter! I have affixed a bolus of aluminum foil to my head but the messages are still percolating through!

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    Mike
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Yikes Stone ! - you may have just crossed over into

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    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    im wondering why in all his other sales the scans are decent, i also dislike how he claims every card he has is under graded.

    if it is a 5 it should be a 6 etc.....
    Good for you.
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