Update : It's a FAKE 1942/1943 dual date COPPER lincoln cent error

rich

If the 1955 DD lincoln is the grandaddy of all errors.I think this might be the Mother of all Errors.It is a 1942-1943 dated (transitional?)lincoln cent on a copper planchet.It must have been stuck in the bag an restruck in 1943!.This coin was shown to me by my new brother in law who just happens to be a coin collector!(I love the guy already )He found this in a bag of wheats in the early 60's.He has another one almost like it ,but on that one, the 3 is off the rim and can't be verified.But take a look at this one,It gives me goose bumps!You can see the faint img of a 3. I need some serious feed back here .Fred Weinberg if you read this please offer your opinion .
Any and all opinions welcomed.I will let get back to this board weds nite after 9 pm EST.

Conder101

I've seen that one before. It's a fake.

rich

Thanks Mike,I will try to upload another img tommorow nite,a second profile is also rotated as well.How would this be faked?A fake die?

LincolnCentMan

I think PCGS would be happy to grade the coin for you... submitted through the error service level. If they holder it as such an error, then it'll be much more marketable. Consigned to a big auction house in a PCGS holder probably has the best potential for strong money.

David

LincolnCentMan

Btw... if the 1943 were struck second... wouldnt the 1943 be the stronger date and the 1942 be "faded?"

David

Rob790

Definately fake. The 1943 date looks mushy and not sharp at all (look at the 1942 date that is sharper). Note how the 1943 date flows with the bust details, a real strike from a real steel die would be sharp and obliterate the design more (and look sharp). Also you have 2 of these 'rare' errors, very unlilkely if they were real. The presence of a second makes it all highly suspect, even if this one was real looking.

Most likely stuck by false dies made from a metal only slightly harder than the original 1942 coin. Remember that the 1943 cents were made from steel (low carbon steel to be sure but still pretty hard) and making a fake die via impression into a softer metal would be quite easy.

JRocco

I agree- a fake. Would it be possible to show a better image of the entire obverse?

Dog97

The 1943 strike would have flattened out the "1942" being that it is in the flat part of the fields if it were authentic.
Sorry.
Beware of brother n law deals. Remember he's on HER side.

lloydmincy

I've seen those before too, and everyone jokes about it. Totally fake.

FredWeinberg

As everyone else has already stated, this coin is
Fake.

I've seen similar pieces (probably not this exact
coin, but I'm not sure) over the past 30++ years.

Fred Weinberg

rich

Thanks for the feed back all .Here is the full image.Thank you Fred .I was a little bothered by the faint secondary profile and the position of the 1943 date.The strike should have obliterated the 1942 date.Now that I have studied it a little more I see the facts clearer.

Rob 790
I think a fake die over a real cent is most likely the way this was done.

ldhair

Now the big question. Do you dare tell your brother n law?

rich

Well Larry, he had taken this to several dealers in the past.Half thought it was fake the other half real.I told him about this board that I was a member of and how there was a great bunch of people here willing to offer their advice and expertise.I told him I would post and let him know the results.Thanks again everybody.