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More big bucks for recent double die, why are most new discoveries p-mint coins?

A 1995d Lincoln double die (3932680884) went for a lot on ebay last night like the 2004 ddo/ddr. Makes me wonder why most recent discoveries are p-mint coins. Why woudn't denver mint produce more new varieties? More people looking on the east coast?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • Link to auction

    Cameron Kiefer
  • RBinTexRBinTex Posts: 4,328
    Same seller has another 65RD AND a 66RD imageimageimage

    p.s. it went for 676.66 last time on eBay about 3 months ago - doesn't look like much appreciation to me. image
  • pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355
    Thanks for the info, any thoughts on the thread?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Its a shame but coppercoins probably knows the reason, but instead of actually getting a response from someone who really knows and really tries to inform others, this post will get buried unanswered. What is this forum for if not to learn and share our knowledge about coins. I can go onto any aol chat if I just want to be a wisea$$ and laugh at my own jokes. Speaking of jokes- there are a few of them on this board.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Here is my thoughts

    maybe since almost all of the popular die varieties are from philly.
    55
    72
    83
    84
    91
    95
    96
    97(which is still don't believe is a DDO)

    maybe people just look to P mints for the errors and the D's aren't really studied. There are plenty out there, some known some not, but I know I sure in hell didn't see the 95-d DDO-3(like the 95 P) on the national news. I am sure there are plenty out there waiting to be cherry picked.

    Jeff
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of the post -'64 coins have better quality from the Denver mint than the Philly mint. There's
    not as much difference in the top grades but the average grade difference is often extreme. This
    applies more to strike than to most other considerations but tends to be true across the board.
    In all probability it also applies to the things which cause the unintentional varieties also.

    There apparently is more saving of Denver minted coins and more collecting of circulating coinage
    in the western part of the country than in the eastern part. The higher savings rate is likely partly
    a function of the frequently low quality seen in the Philly issues; people aren't as likely to save coins
    that are poorly made and unattractive. In very recent years (ultra-moderns) this quality gap seems
    to be closing a little.
    Tempus fugit.
  • Cladking, I always thought the P stike was under more tonage than the D, making the P the sharper stike? Am I wrong?

    Jeff
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,636 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Cladking, I always thought the P stike was under more tonage than the D, making the P the sharper stike? Am I wrong?

    Jeff >>



    Probably. There is a great deal of similarity in the way dies and coins are made at each
    mint and there is more variation from one year to another than one mint to another. It's
    not impossible that the Philly mint uses more pressure to strike coins in some years, but
    I've not heard of or seen a difference.

    The biggest quality problems with Philly tend to be oblique strikes, marking, and worn dies,
    but until recently they were generally at least a little worse in most categories.

    Again though, in the highest grades there is little difference between the mints and Philly
    often is better than Denver.
    Tempus fugit.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My personal opinion is that the quality control was better in Devner than Philly. In other words, the Denver Mint could be making just as many defective (doubled) dies as Philly, but caught more of them before they were used to strike coins.

    Alterntely, if you go back to the time when the Philly Mint manufactured all of the dies, I figure there would be at least two additional inspections of the dies in Denver - one on arrival and another once the mintmark was added.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • Possibly because the die shop at Denver is much newer than the one at Philadephia. Also the die shop at Denver makes the dies for Denver. The die shop at Philiadelphia makes the dies for Philadelphia, San Francisco, West Point, the master hubs for the Denver shop, and any medal or experimental dies that are needed. So the older shop at Philly is under more pressure to produce more dies. In that case it would not surprise me to find more errors from Philly.

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