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Experience with NCS - copper coins

WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
Would like the opinions of those of you who have used NCS services on copper coins. I am considering submitting a couple uncirculated coins (one lincoln RB, the other a large cent BR) with some dirt and finger printing. Are these the type of coins appropriate for NCS?
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  • JohnMabenJohnMaben Posts: 957 ✭✭✭
    Call there and describe the coins to them. They will help you. I can tell you this, they don't "dip" copper coins despite what some may say...

    John Maben
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    The only copper coin in their 6 pages of before/after pics is a 1964-D Lincoln.

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    It seems like copper proofs/patterns (and copper-nickel) are better candidates for them than MS copper, unless it's a very light surface problem. There's an "ask NCS" forum on NGC's site, but chances are they'll have to see your coins in person before giving a definitive answer.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
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  • I have seen Indians cents come back blue toned after NCS conserved them.
  • I've seen copper Civil War tokens(made of almost the same composition as early cents) come back with a very pale light color to them, almost pink. Some come back brown though. You've got to ask yourself, are they worth submiting? If there key dates, mostly certainly, I would submit them. I believe they can get dirt off with no problem what so ever. The fingerprints might be a little more challenging. I would say call them up, describe the coins, and get some expert advice, or send them pics by mail, that might help.
    Scott Hopkins
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  • I had one F.E. cent bagged for questionable color. Sent it to NCS and it now is in a NGC62 holder. They seemed to do a nice job.
    JRH
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I had one F.E. cent bagged for questionable color. Sent it to NCS and it now is in a NGC62 holder. They seemed to do a nice job. >>


    An interesting experiment would be to crack it out and resubmit it to NGC.

    I suspect that coins that travel the NCS route are more likely to be holdered by NGC.
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    If they are original coins with untouched services leave them as they are! It does not matter who dips them it's pretty easy to tell copper has been worked on. NCS coins have a greasy un-natural look to them in my opinion although this look is "market acceptable" it is not to me. mike
  • I have sent in a few Lincolns and they seem to be able to take the haze off the coins, but when it comes to spots it seems like they have a little trouble.
    Stacy

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have seen Indians cents come back blue toned after NCS conserved them.

    I've seen the same with copper patterns. The coins look good. My only concern is that blue copper is becoming increasingly common. Once enough coins have turned blue, the novelty of blue copper may wear off and the coins be stigmatized as AT. Only time will tell.

    BTW, many of Harry Bass' copper patterns had the same look, and the color of those coins has held up over the years.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • I believe Marty sends a lot of Proof/SMS Copper through NCS without a problem...
    -George
    42/92


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    << <i>I had one F.E. cent bagged for questionable color. Sent it to NCS and it now is in a NGC62 holder. They seemed to do a nice job. >>


    An interesting experiment would be to crack it out and resubmit it to NGC.

    I suspect that coins that travel the NCS route are more likely to be holdered by NGC. >>


    Yes, I wondered about that very possibility ....but I didn't want to take the chance that it would get bagged again ....then what would I do ???
    JRH


  • << <i> NCS coins have a greasy un-natural look to them in my opinion although this look is "market acceptable" it is not to me. mike >>


    Yes, now that you mention it, the F.E. cent that was bagged, sent to NCS and then holdered MS-62 did, in fact, have a bit of that look to it (that it did not have when I submitted it).
    JRH


  • << <i>Yes, I wondered about that very possibility ....but I didn't want to take the chance that it would get bagged again ....then what would I do ??? >>


    Submitt it through NCS again like they want you to.
  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    i have seen plenty of ncs'ed copper, & personally think they have damaged a lot of them. i do not look the greasy, grungy look that many of the coins end up with.

    K S

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