IKE PRICE GUIDE- NEW PCGS PRICES.....

COINDOG

About 3 weeks ago i contacted pcgs about the ike price guide. the prices were totally un-realistic, they apparently agreed. we now have a new price guide !!
the 1972-P Type # 2 in ms66 is : $ 15,000.00, which is about what the coin is worth on the current market.
most of the others ahve increased as well.

DRG

Great news!

The SBA prices have been changed also. They all look a lot more realistic to me.

Thanks PCGS!!

cladking

Very cool.

segoja

WOW coindog you have some pull.

I've been pushing David for 2 + years to change the price guide, and he wouldn't listen. even with the #1 and #2 sets and puchlished buy prices in excess of the price guide, he wouldn't listen to me.

Thanks for your help in getting the numbers up.

BTW, $15,000 wouldn't pry either of the 3 known MS66 type II 72-P's loose, so I'm not sure it's right even now!

wondercoin

I believe PCGS really did a great job with the revised pricing on all the Dollar coins - Ikes, SBA's and Sacs. Yes, the prices are still a bit conservative in a couple areas, but that simply may result in even higher Coin Guide prices at the time of the next adjustment in prices.
What I really like is PCGS' "pulling no punches" approach. For example, last week the price guide showed the 2001(p) Sac in PCGS-MS69 at $75 and I had a personal buy price at around 10x price guide. I was also selling the coin routinely around or higher than the $1,000 level. Now, the price has been adjusted from $75 to $1,000 in the Guide in "one clean swoop". No baby steps here to correct a mistaken price - and I see that same situation throughout the Ike and SBA charts as well.

TWO THUMBS UP TO PCGS ON THIS ONE!!

Wondercoin

khayse

I'm not sure how good a price guide is on something that has a population of 1 or 3.

Also I don't know where they got their price on the type 1 MS66 1972P. I've never seen the coin up for
auction. While I have seen MS69 examples of the S mint coins for auction and yet they don't have prices for
them.



-KHayse

COINDOG

They communicate with many, many dealers, and collectors. they also monitor the offers to buy.

Deb048gold

David listened to me two weeks ago in the Coin Forum Q&A about the Sac prices and said he would check it out and he followed through. Thanks David!
For those of you that haven't posted any questions, concerns, observations to PCGS and David on the Q&A forum, do so. It shows that they can and will be responsive.

Yousri

Good job from PCGS, but they can improve.
They list a complete set of Proof IKE's in 69DCAM as $1455 when in fact there are alot of comlplete set sold on ebay for 1/3 of that price.
I bought a complete set for $389.
But still a good job.

Deb048gold

I hear you on the IKE Proofs. Way to high, but in all honesty they should price higher than the $399-600 prices we see for all 11 coins.

earlwbollinger

Wow! I am impressed.
Thanks

COINDOG

James,
you are right about the 1972-P Type # 2 in ms 66. it's worth at least $ 15,000.00 + .
it could even go as high as $ 20,000 + if no more are certified as ms 66.
in addition, the 1971- S business strike is way undervalued !!
when it goes into the registry, it's price will at least Triple !!!
i have found through my own experience that they are much more difficult to find than the type # 2, especially in anything above ms 64 !!

COINDOG

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James,
you are right about the 1972-P Type # 2 in ms 66. it's worth at least $ 15,000.00 + .
it could even go as high as $ 20,000 + if no more are certified as ms 66.
in addition, the 1971- S business strike is way undervalued !!
when it goes into the registry, it's price will at least Triple !!!
i have found through my own experience that they are much more difficult to find than the type # 2, especially in anything above ms 64 !! >>

COINDOG

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James,
you are right about the 1972-P Type # 2 in ms 66. it's worth at least $ 15,000.00 + .
it could even go as high as $ 20,000 + if no more are certified as ms 66.
in addition, the 1971- S business strike is way undervalued !!
when it goes into the registry, it's price will at least Triple !!!
i have found through my own experience that they are much more difficult to find than the type # 2, especially in anything above ms 64 !![ /Q] >>



Of course, i meant the 1971-S Peg Leg Business strike !!!

jcping

Mmmm..... where can I find a $6500 1976-D type one PCGS MS67 and a $7500 1978-D PCGS MS67 (a real MS67)

cosmicdebris

Geez my 72S, 73S, 74S MS68 Ikes did not sell for these prices a few weeks ago.

misterR

As far as the copper/nickel regular strike Ikes in 65/66/67 go, the prices seem to be a bit on the high side.
Much better than being a bit on the low side though.
Overall a vast improvement and the best price guide for regular/business strike Ikes I have seen.
Thank you COINDOG and PCGS!

segoja

MisterR,

I would differ with your assessment on the upper end Clad stuff.

Evben on this thread I think you see evidence that the numbers are still low.

As JC points out, find me the 78-D in 67 that's for sale. (I know where the coin is, but it's not for sale)

Also find me the 76-D Type I in 67. ( I know where it is, and it's also not for sale, particularly at the numbers in the price guide. Maybe north of double that would coax it out)

Maybe on some of the more common 66 stuff it's a bit over, but even there, the 73-P and 74-P in 66 have been bringing strong money.

LindeDad

Off the course a little bit but did anybody notice the typo on the 1978's?

misterR

Segoja-I'll have to remember to contact you next time one turns up!

Lindedad-I noticed that too. My guess correct number is $75 each.

khayse

James,
As I've said, price guides for very low pop coins don't make any sense. Just because it takes $10K to get
the only person who has the coin to sell it doesn't mean the coin is worth $10K.

I agree that for most MS66 P&D mint coins the prices listed seem high (which is typical of PCGS). The 71P and 76P
seem too low. I'll have to see more transactions on the 73P and 74P to judge whether the current run-up is
indicative of the market or just one or two individuals who badly need the coin and are bidding against each other.

No comments on the lack of MS69 prices? I just noticed that they even have Proof prices in 70.

-KHayse

segoja

Keith,

The value is what it takes to do the transaction.

Top Pop coins are very very difficult to price.

As you say, it's what ever it takes to pry one loose.

We all jsut hope and pray that someone doesn't blow out the pops.

COINDOG

<< <i>Segoja-I'll have to remember to contact you next time one turns up!

Lindedad-I noticed that too. My guess correct number is $75 each. >>



If the 1978-D in ms 67 ever becomes available several people ( myself included ) would be interested !!

bushmaster8

OK , so now the IKE price guide has gone from totally worthless to nearly worthless. Still too many prices that are way off to be of much use.

segoja

When the 78-D is sold, it's mine. I've sold the guys Ikes for over 15 years. He has already promised me the first shot at the coin. Problem is he doesn't need the cash, and isn't interested in selling.

The only way for me to get one in 67 is make one.

cupronik

James:

I'm just curious. Does the owner of the 78-D Ike in PCGS-67 also own
a 72-D or 77-D in PCGS-67? I sold both of those coins on Teletrade
back in the Fall of 1998 and neither coin has shown up in any listed
PCGS registry set of Ikes.

Cupronik

segoja

They just might!

James

khayse

Thanks James.

coindog, if you edit your profile you can change it so people can PM you. FYI.

-KHayse

COINDOG

i appreciate the info !!!!

alergar

Thanks for the update. Last weekend I re-worked my spread sheets based on DPG print outs from the 30th.
They made big changes to Ike's, SBA's and SAC's, I might not have noticed it until next month if I hadn't
seen your thread.

Some coins that I was upside down on for purchase price are now showing in the green!!

I noticed that PCGS is now showing prices for SBA 1979-P Wide Rim/Near Dates, SAC 2000-P Goodacres and
SAC 2000-D Millenniums.